Candace Owens on Erika Kirk's Unexplained New York Real Estate Activities Near Epstein's Circle
Candace Owens presents new information linking Erika Kirk to Jeffrey Epstein's social orbit through her unexplained presence at a Manhattan modelling agency.
Summary
Candace Owens announces new eyewitness accounts placing Erika Kirk at Next Model Management — a modelling agency co-founded by Faith Kates, a close associate of Jeffrey Epstein. Multiple sources recall Kirk taking real estate meetings at the agency's offices concerning housing arrangements for young Eastern European models, despite Kirk lacking a verifiable New York real estate licence at that time. Owens argues Kirk's past involves significant unexplained elements requiring public answers, particularly given her current political prominence. She also criticises Turning Point USA's monetisation of Charlie Kirk's memory through a proposed memorial licence plate scheme.
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
Opening: Erika Kirk Cannot Be Trusted
Candace Owens: I'm just telling you right now, if Erika Kirk is ever on a ticket, I am not voting for Erika Kirk. I will vote for anybody else. I will vote for somebody foreign before I vote for Erika Kirk. I'll vote for somebody's pet fish before I vote for Erika Kirk. I am done. I have seen enough. I can no longer bear people defending Erika Kirk in any way, any shape, any form. It has to end. It has to stop. Okay, it has to stop right now because we received some follow-up information regarding Erika's time in New York — confusing time in New York — specifically more details pertaining to what the hell Erika was doing parked at a modelling agency that was frequented by Jeffrey Epstein.
And you know what? This information feels pretty explosive. I would say it requires a response. We can't keep pretending that this is just some godly woman who's just being attacked by the internet. Erika's past is checkered. It's very checkered. Her mother, her acquaintances, everything about this girl should be sending off alarm bells, especially for the people that keep defending her. Look at the people that keep defending her. They themselves are the biggest red flag.
Crowdsourced Investigation Produces New Leads
Our new rule here is if you see something, say something. We open up investigations to the world because it tends to be that you get a lot of information when you do that. It really is incredible. And as soon as we opened the door to the plausibility that Erika and Jeffrey Epstein may have come across each other — certainly plausible, they seem to be just swimming around each other — more people began talking and remembering some things.
Now, I'm going to preface this by saying that we did not go out to Erika for comment regarding today's episode because it makes very little sense if someone ignores your first email question to think that they're going to be willing to answer a related follow-up question.
Next Model Management's Epstein Connection
Let's get back into this. Next Model Management was co-founded by Faith Kates. We told you this yesterday. A dear friend to Jeffrey Epstein — all over the emails 4,000 plus times. Her offices had a ton of Eastern European models that were going through it. She's actually known for having made the careers of various Eastern European models. And like I told you guys, Jeffrey Epstein was around this office a lot. He frequented the office as you would if it was your friend's. All of this is a fact.
Now, another interesting fact is that Faith Kates actually knew Epstein since before she co-founded Next because she was actually the vice president of the women's division over at Wilhelmina Models first. Wilhelmina Models was co-founded by Francis Rothschild. And why is that interesting? Because you will recall in Jeffrey Epstein's recently released emails that he said to Peter Thiel that he works directly for the Rothschild family. He's spreading around their money. I will show you that email here so that we can confirm it.
It is Jeffrey to Peter. He says: "As you probably know, I represent the Rothschilds. I was hoping to figure out a way for the bank that has 160 billion in management to do something in tech. Best client list in the world. Prehistoric products. It can wait." Just asserting that as a fact here.
The Rothschilds, Zionism, and Charlie Kirk's Final Struggles
Now, what is also a fact is that the Rothschilds credit themselves with creating the modern state of Israel. Zionism was therefore their creation. Zionists were also the people that were squeezing Charlie Kirk at the end of his life — morally blackmailing Charlie Kirk, stressing out Charlie Kirk, pulling money away from Charlie Kirk and the organisation. Charlie himself said that he was done with the pro-Israel cause, but then he was murdered and his wife did a complete 180 like LBJ, inviting frankly deranged Zionists into the fold immediately.
Ben Shapiro, who was in fact an enemy to her husband, effectively opened AmFest. He came out first and then Ben Shapiro came out second. He was also allowed into Charlie Kirk's studio and appeared in person. Very odd. I want you to park that into your mind. She never came out and said anything about Josh Hammer lying when he said effectively that Charlie never blinked on Israel. She never said anything at all about what Charlie was going through — never said, "Oh, that donor took money away from him. I'm so angry about that." Not once.
Actually, you could argue she did the opposite. She was setting up interviews with the likes of Bari Weiss, pushing Charlie's final book. Shabbat Shalom. Shabbat Shalom. Okay, we got it.
Eyewitness Accounts: Kirk as Real Estate Contact at Next Models
Now, what is also a fact is that some of the employees and some of the people who were associated parties with Next Models remember Erika Kirk at the office taking meetings. Weird — because Erika Kirk, despite her very illustrious, multi-hyphenated career, has actually never made the claim to have worked for a modelling agency. So what was she doing? That was a question we went out to her with. What were you actually doing here parked up at this office? What is your connection here to Next Model Management? Do you know Faith Kates? How do you know Faith Kates, Erika? Do you know — did you see Epstein walking around the office? Fair questions.
Well, what we can now confirm — and these are eyewitness accounts — specifically, they recall Erika because she was taking meetings at the office and those meetings were pertaining to real estate — real estate for the models that were coming from Eastern Europe who were being packed like sardines into apartment buildings.
Now, on background, in case you're not familiar with the modelling industry, as I am not, the sources confirm that what is typical in the modelling world was for agencies to find places for girls to stay while they were in New York. They tell me, and I'm going to quote this here: "Younger girls, when they first get to New York City, they pack them in like cattle into one apartment."
Which makes Erika's role curious because multiple people remember and they say that Erika Kirk was the contact. Specifically, what they recall is she was the contact for a white building on the Upper East Side around 68th Street and Second and Third Avenue. It's pretty specific. Yeah, that she was the contact.
Now, why? What? Erika's the contact. Got these girls coming. Erika's got these people in and we've all been trying to figure out what she was doing in real estate. But yeah, that is the memory of the people who were working with and around Next Model Management. Real estate contact. And they said, "We don't really know why."
The Missing Real Estate Licence
They don't know why, and I don't know how because the issue that I'm having here is that Erika did not actually have her real estate licence yet. Remember, real estate licences are a matter of public record. So how could it be that Erika was working with one of the top modelling agencies in New York City full stop regarding what would you describe it as real estate deals allegedly? Was she maybe the property manager?
Well, I have another clue actually and this is a fact. Erika told people specifically during that time that she was doing real estate deals with her family. Key word here: family. But which family? Who's the family? We can, I think, reasonably assume that she's not referring to her family back in Scottsdale. Lori doesn't do real estate. She's a tech genius. Remember, a sustainability tech genius. Sustainability. Sustainability. Sustainability.
It's much more likely that she's in New York and she's saying this that she's referring to the Rothstein family. Now, you will remember Erika at this time was living with Nicole Rothstein. And it is a fact that Nicole Rothstein did work in real estate — not at the Corcoran Group, but she has a long career in real estate. She went to school for real estate and she currently runs her own real estate company.
And her father, Alan Rothstein — Erika is extremely close with him. She calls him uncle. He was the chairman — might still be the chairman — of Win Haven Real Estate. And yeah, like I said, this is what she wrote about him on Instagram in 2017. This post reads:
"There's something powerful about God's strategic planning when it comes to the people that he has surrounded you with. How blessed am I to have individuals like you, Uncle Alan, in my life that are filled with spirit, constantly seeing life in bloom. I have watched you face adversity and triumph, and in doing so, pass a gift of courage and a message of understanding to those around you that if you live boldly and fearlessly, the impossible is possible. I love you."
Hey, she loves her Uncle Alan. Now, I bring this up because I'm just asserting that it is very plausible that these were the people who introduced Erika to the world of real estate. I will also add here that I haven't gone down the Rothstein rabbit hole, but I do know that Rothsteins in New York, if they are at all related to the Rothstein that was involved with fixing the White Sox game, that's a Rothschild — that's a Rothschild family member. His mother was a Rothschild.
Again, I don't know if that is true, but it sure would be interesting to find that out. Very clearly want to say I'm not asserting that these two did anything wrong — Alan or Nicole. I'm just trying to put the pieces together to establish how Erika, who was herself at this time trying to be booked onto reality TV shows for fashion or really anything — The Amazing Race, dating, whatever she could — I'm wondering how she pivoted so seamlessly into the genre of real estate. How was she able to climb the ranks so speedily, so high?
Kirk's Implausible Real Estate Biography
And by the way, we should read her real estate bio because it really is something to read Erika's real estate bio so you understand she was a power player. Okay, it reads:
"Erika Kirk is a multi-dimensional entrepreneur" — she keeps writing that and I don't really know what that means. Like is she in 2D? Is she in 4D? Is this like a tesseract again? Anyway — "Erika Kirk is a multi-dimensional entrepreneur with a bold and steadfast faith that has sustained her borderless heart. She has lived all over the world from Los Angeles to China working in the entertainment industry as an agency-represented model, actress, and casting director."
We have not been able to confirm that.
"Several years ago, after her heart was captured by the contagious inspiration of America's most transnational city, she bought a one-way ticket to New York City and made it home. Erika is known throughout her community and deep network base as an influential and positive voice. Her experience working on the developer side of the New York City real estate industry is a tremendous asset to her role as an agent with a work ethic that is unmatched and a zealous disposition to make a difference. Her main focus is the fiduciary relationship" — I'm sorry, excuse me. Is she in finance now? — "with her clients while placing their real estate needs as her top priority."
Who are these clients? Her focus, she says, is fiduciary. It's interesting.
We go on: "Erika is also the founder and CEO of Everyday Heroes Like You, a 501(c)(3) charitable organisation that assists other nonprofits globally. The organisation celebrates their 12th year and their long-standing partnership with the United States Marine Corps by expanding into China and Costa Rica while continuing their community outreach programs in the United States and Constanța, Romania."
"Erika's perseverant spirit has been the driving force behind her eclectic background. From being a former NCAA women's basketball athlete to Miss Arizona USA 2012, she knows what it takes to set a goal and fearlessly pursue it. Erika graduated magna cum laude" — we have not been able to confirm that. That seems to be made up, but so is the rest of this bio appear to be made up — "with a double major in political science and international relations" — that also appears to be made up because international relations was not offered at that year — "from Arizona State University and is currently pursuing a juris master degree at Liberty University."
It's a lot. It's a mouthful. I just would like to know what any of it means. And maybe I'm thinking out loud here, but how exactly do impoverished girls from Eastern Europe — young impoverished girls from Eastern Europe — afford apartments in one of the most expensive cities in the world? How are they making money as young models from Eastern Europe? Why is Erika the point person on that allegedly, but the people that dealt with her directly say so?
I'd like to hear Erika's feedback on that. What's she doing? Who are these clients, these real estate clients that she's helping with their finances?
The Unverifiable New York Real Estate Licence
Also, as an aside, why am I unable to confirm Erika's New York real estate licence? I am indeed able to find a relic of it on a third-party site, but I'm not able to independently verify it on New York State's Division of Licenses website. Now, New York State, from what I'm seeing at first glance, is supposed to hold this information for at least 6 years, but I can't find a shred of proof regarding which real estate deals Erika completed. Right? So maybe you guys can help because we're coming up to the six-year deadline. That should be October of this year.
Here is her real estate licence, the relic of it that I found. Licence number . Okay. It was issued to Erika. They are active for two years. So we can discern that it was issued October 24th of 2018 and it was valid at least until 2020. Real estate people in New York, let me know what you can find. If you can confirm Erika's real estate licence and what she sold because that bio sounds legit — she's managing some serious clients there, man, helping to manage their money in real estate deals. I'm very interested in that.
Now, if you see something, if you know something, maybe you were featured in one of these dimensions with Erika — you went 2D, 4D. I'm in 3D, but maybe you went somewhere else and you saw her — please, we'd like to hear from you. More tips at CandaceOwens.com.
The Implausible Multi-Tasking Claims
Like I said, this is very obviously something Erika should answer for. You want to be the queen bee. You want to be a public figure. You want people floating your name for president of the United States. Well, let's get to a little bit of background. Who are you? What were you doing? And the answer should be very clear and very concise because I struggle, got to be honest.
I struggle to believe that Erika was in fact while in New York doing real estate deals with fiduciary responsibilities while helping Turning Point USA, filming a reality TV show, also in school fulltime to get her juris master's followed by her law degree at Liberty, while also studying the mandatory 77 hours to achieve her real estate licence, while also running an international charity in partnership with the US Marines halfway around the world and in China, while also running a faith-based clothing company, plus you know giving advice to Turning Point — doing all of that at the same time. That's a struggle for me. I can't get there. I don't think she was doing that because I keep not being born yesterday. So hard not being born yesterday.
The Troubling Romanian Angels Connection
Also, if we're asking questions, how is that Erika's always so tied to Eastern Europe? Why is she just kind of floating around this girl from Ohio? How does she get linked to Romania and the United States Marines?
And today, I should be clear, she presents it as though she was just sending gifts. That's kind of the new thing. "Oh, I was just helping to send Christmas gifts to kids in need in an orphanage. That was it. Organising gifts being sent." Which of course, again, common sense would say that would not require the support of the United States Marines. You can do that right now today, team. Phone up someone in Romania and ask them for an address and you can send gifts, right? It's expensive to ship. You could probably ground ship that. I don't — you know, her involvement was much more.
How do I know? Well, because before the scandal broke and accusations of child trafficking onto the military base, Erika used to claim that she was a bit more involved. A lot more involved. I'll let you take a listen to Erika in her own words during her audition tape for The Amazing Race with her ex-boyfriend. Here's what she says about Romanian Angels.
Erika Kirk (quoted from video): "We just have a borderless heart to help people and to give back. And you know, I have been to Romania and teamed up with the Marine Corps to open up and sustain an orphanage with 75 beautiful children. And that's called Romanian Angels, through my nonprofit, Everyday Heroes Like You."
Candace Owens: She opened up in partnership with the Marines. She opened up and she sustained an orphanage. So I would like to know more about that. I now need to know more about that. I do think that the TikTokers were not so crazy instantly going down that rabbit hole and asking for more information.
Former Orphan Questions Antonio's Placement Center
And I feel even more compelled to get information about that because according to one of the former children — now an adult, the former child now an adult — who was adopted out of Antonio's Placement Center, that is notably a corrupt orphanage, okay, and she's referring to Antonio's Placement Center — just to make it clear for you guys, Everyday Heroes is her 501(c)(3) and then they do various projects. This was called the Romanian Angels project. And the Romanian Angels, so to speak, were living at Antonio's Placement Center in Constanța, Romania, where our base was.
And I'm going to read you this email from someone who was placed from the Antonio Placement Center. It reads:
"Dear Candace, I am writing to share personal historical context regarding the Antonio Placement Center in Constanța, Romania, which may be relevant to your reporting on Erika Kirk and the Romanian Angels Project. While independent fact checkers have found no evidence linking Miss Kirk's work to illicit activities, I believe the history of the Antonio Placement Center warrants further investigation.
I was personally placed in this center under dubious circumstances involving misdiagnosis and institutional pressure before being adopted internationally. This center in particular is notorious for corruption and illicit activities such as trafficking children, which is why I was shocked that out of all of the placement centers in Romania, this was a center that she chose to partner with.
It is noteworthy that Ms. Kirk's promotional materials from approximately 2012 to 2014 specifically referenced the Antonio Placement Center as a partner for her international efforts. This intersection is significant because the institution has been part of a broader system criticised for lack of transparency and the documented practice of placing children in care based on catastrophic language rather than medical or social necessity.
In my own case, I was labeled with severe impairments that were not supported by my developmental records. Given how much history there is about Romanian institutional practices, adoption controversies, and the experience of people who grew up in these centers, it seems important to look beyond the social media claims and consider the history and operations of Antonio Placement Center itself.
Best regards, Lissa."
Candace Owens: Well, I hear that call and I would like to hear from some more people who were adopted from the Antonio Placement Center in Constanța. Also, if you live in Romania, you have access to documents. I would like to know — I would like to separate fact from fiction or Erika from Erika. Did they start and open the Antonio Placement Center? Does that mean they took over the Antonio Placement Center? Was the US Marines operating it or were they just pretending to give gifts? I want to know as much as there is to know because I have the ick.
Tyler Bowyer's Romanian Connection
And speaking of the ick, we should talk about Tyler Bowyer, Erika's friend, her dear friend who introduced her to her husband, but for the life of her, she cannot remember how they met. It's a difficult one. Tricky one. Very tricky one.
I had a person send me a recent conversation that they had on social media with Tyler because he gets a little snippy on social media, gaslights people, pretends he's a good guy. And this is his excuse for why he was in Romania in 2010. Tyler says: "I studied Romanian in college to complement my Russian studies and did a few weeks studying abroad in school. Not everything is a conspiracy."
I feel it is a conspiracy. I don't think it is just ironic that you happen to go right when the military base got set up and when Dennis Kirk was there. I just don't buy that. And I got interested because I said a Romanian program — that sounds unique. Does Arizona State University have a Romanian program?
They do and the history of it — I actually was shocked. Romanian programs are rare and there's no major, but Arizona State University is actually the only university in America that you can even achieve a minor in Romanian studies. How random.
And the history of how this program developed is pretty precise. In 2010, the very year that Tyler Bowyer went over to Romania, Arizona State University became the site of an honorary consulate general of Romania in Arizona. Effectively, just you understand that a Romanian embassy on ASU campus — an honorary Romanian embassy was established in 2010.
And then in 2011, the program inaugurated the first Romanian lectorate — the first in an American academic environment — and it was funded by a Romanian language institute. They also launched ASU the Central European Cultural Collaborative which facilitates partnerships with Romanian universities.
Now there's a bit of a revolving door. 2010 was one hell of a year for Romania and Arizona. That's what I would definitely say. But this relationship has continued. You guys are not going to believe this, but big news: beginning in July of last year, a few months before Charlie was assassinated, now Arizona is becoming further embedded with Romania. They are the first and the only state to open a trade office in Romania. This was announced. Check out my headline: "Arizona to be the first US state to open a trade office in Romania."
That sure is something. The Romania to Arizona pipeline sure feels like something.
Why This Pattern Matters
So I would like to say in closing that we should pay attention to this. We're starting to see how this world works. And this is weird. This is weird. Do not let Tyler gaslight you in conversations. It's odd. This should be screaming at you as it is screaming at me that something's not right.
Turning Point headquarters, a location picked by Tyler Bowyer — Charlie Kirk didn't even open the organisation. It was started in Chicago. They choose a spot for their campus that is a trafficking hotbed. Factually, Erika's strange attachment to Tyler Bowyer, but lack of a memory regarding Tyler Bowyer. Super Feed Incorporated where Erika's mother is serving as a board member with Tyler Bowyer. And Super Feed, by the way, read the fine print on Turning Point USA's app — Super Feed owns the copyright, which means that's where your data is going. Just pretty interesting there.
Turning Point allegedly getting into real estate. Tyler Bowyer being at the forefront of that according to the tips that we've received. That's a little bit of ick, right? Charlie establishing a DOGE 7 days before he died. Erika's phone call in the Hamptons. Donald Trump pageantry world. The Epstein files. What Epstein files? Are we still talking about the Epstein files?
Trump trying to make fetch happen with Erika Kirk. Photos. Oh, we're supposed to just view her as some sort of a leader as if she was promised it for some reason — like she was guaranteed the keys to Charlie's empire. Why?
All of this stinks to high heaven. You know it. I know it. Any rational people in the world know it. And we're not going to let up.
The Charlie Kirk Memorial Licence Plate Scheme
Now, some of us were actually grieving Charlie Kirk. Turning Point USA, on the other hand, was grieving differently — just differently. Turns out there was no pathway in which these goblins were not trying to strike gold off of his name, including ladies and gentlemen, in case you missed it, at the DMV. Man, I had quite a chuckle about this. They were like, "What else can we do? The DMV? Let's make some money."
So apparently what happened was back in January, Arizona senator named Jake Hoffman — now I should let you know Jake Hoffman is a dear friend of Tyler Bowyer, a partner of Tyler Bowyer. He formerly used to work at Turning Point USA. They make money together. I knew Jake Hoffman, okay? This ain't some senator I didn't know Charlie but was impacted. No. Okay. He's embedded with Turning Point USA.
And Jake Hoffman back on January 28th introduced a bill for a state licence plate to honor Charlie Kirk. You know guys, it's all about honoring his legacy. Now, the proposed specialty plate, which was going to be referred to as a Charlie Kirk memorial plate, was essentially going to feature a photo of Charlie and the Turning Point USA logo in front of an American flag background — a little shameless promotion.
And below the licence plate, I just saw the words — we're going to read: "For Charlie" — because it was definitely for Charlie. Okay, I'm sure somewhere there's an interview where they're going to explain to us like, "Oh, you know, I had a competition with him and Charlie said, 'Wouldn't it be so great if my face was on a plate.'" I'm sure, right? The ghost of Charlie always when nobody's there says exactly what they're trying to accomplish.
Anyway, so this goes through and the Senate passed — they passed the bill 16–2 — and then the House of Reps also voted in favor of the bill 31–23.
And now in case you're thinking maybe that's sweet — maybe this really was for Charlie — you should think again. You should remember that we're speaking about Turning Point USA. There's got to be money somewhere, right? There's got to be cha-ching cha-ching somewhere.
So how it actually would have worked is that you would have paid a $25 fee for that specialty plate. $17 of which would have been an annual donation deposited into a conservative grassroots network special plate fund according to legislation. And while the recipient of the grassroots network special plate fund was not explicitly stated as being Turning Point USA in the bill, it did note that the director of the fund would allocate the revenue annually to a nonprofit organisation founded in 2012 that focuses on restoring traditional values and maintaining a grassroots activist network on high school and college campuses in Arizona and assisting college students with voter registration and absentee ballots.
They just — no shame. There's no shame. It's amazing. It's amazing to think the new CEO really being up there like "These YouTubers are making thousands of dollars investigating who killed my husband. Thousands of dollars they are making. Look at them. I can't believe it. Shame."
Governor Hobbs Vetoes the Licence Plate Bill
Well, what happens after is Katie Hobbs, who is the governor, vetoed the bill — quite rationally, I might add. She wrote a very nice letter. And basically her reasoning — I'll read it here. She said:
"Today, I vetoed SB1439. Charlie Kirk's assassination is tragic and a horrifying act of violence in America. We resolve our political differences at the ballot box. No matter who it targets, political violence puts us all in harm's way and damages our sacred democratic institutions. I will continue working toward solutions and bringing people together, but this bill falls short of that standard by inserting politics into a function of government that should remain nonpartisan. Sincerely, Katie Hobbs."
Yeah. Maybe if I was governor, I would add a couple lines about "Y'all are shameless, you're crazy, your mama should be ashamed of you," but you know, I'm not the governor. I'm probably never going to be a governor, being fair.
Now, of course, Turning Point USA is in for the spin. They're outraged. Jake Hoffman is outraged. But there were going to be kickbacks. Who knows? There's a relationship there. The Kirks, Jake Hoffman, Tyler — thick as thieves.
Here's what Jake Hoffman said on Fox News regarding her decision.
Fox News Host: What's your response to the governor when she says that honoring Charlie Kirk quote "falls short of that standard of bringing people together"?
Jake Hoffman: Well, listen. The only thing that falls short, unfortunately, is Katie Hobbs's track record actually trying to unite the people of Arizona. Look, Charlie Kirk was an incredible man. He was a friend of mine for 11 years. And when he passed, the memorial we held is the only time in Arizona history that we filled two professional sports stadiums to honor and run tribute to the life of an Arizona citizen. He built a national organisation with a global impact reaching all the way from South Korea to London. When he passed away, there's no doubt that he was a uniter. He was someone who championed free speech and he was a civil rights leader of our time.
Fox News Host: Jake, here's what I don't get. There are other licence plates, including some that are tied to conservative causes that have been approved. We have Choose Life — that's from the Arizona Life Coalition and its mission to promote anti-abortion advocacy. We have one from Alliance Defending Freedom, you know, talking about conservative Christian legal advocacy, yet the president says isn't there. Is there anything different in these Charlie plates versus what you're seeing on your screen?
Jake Hoffman: No. The reality is that Katie Hobbs has repeatedly been petty and partisan in everything that she's done — whether it be her nominees that she appoints to run the state agencies or whether it be her veto track record. In fact, just last year she vetoed about nine of my bills and she used — I chair the nominations committee and she used the acronym of the committee as her reason for the veto. She's legally required to give us a reason and she used the acronym of the committee to do it. She is nakedly partisan and this is why we have to make sure that there is a new governor elected come this November.
Rejecting the Left vs Right Frame on Grift
Candace Owens: No, I don't care if Katie Hobbs wins the gubernatorial race. I don't care if a Republican wins. I am just so disgusted with politics in general that we're even pretending this is a left or right issue. Just say we want money. Just say we want to grift off of Charlie's death every which way and manner that we can. Just say we want the $17 out of the $25. Let's stop pretending it's about politics. Let's stop pretending it's about Democrat versus Republican. Let's just acknowledge that on both sides everybody's filth. Everybody is filth.
And the people that they want to steal from are the people that come to the DMV who have souls and actually will look up and go, "Wow, I was really impacted by Charlie's assassination" and like, "I would like to have that plate so that it can be in memory of him." And at the end of the day, who's that money going to? It's going to his wife's organisation now. And the messaging is apparently you can always honor Charlie with your hard-earned money.
I want you guys to know that this is the messaging coming out of Turning Point USA: you can always honor Charlie with your hard-earned money. You can't honor him by remembering the words that he said. You can't honor him — we got to take down all of his episodes. We have to make sure we hide interviews of things he said. We have to direct the ghost of Charlie. We have to pretend he didn't have all that going on with the Zionists at the end. We got to welcome them into the fold — all of his enemies. Just give us money. We want your money at all times of the day. We want your money. It is the only way that you can honor Charlie.
Just absolutely disgusting. And I had to share that with you guys because I just thought to myself, there's just no end.
Tyler Bowyer Defends the Licence Plate
And by the way, of course, Tyler Bowyer jumped into the fold because that's his boy. And here's what he said on X. He wrote: "Every nonprofit in Arizona that has major roots has a licence plate. Katie Hobbs vetoed this over politics after Charlie was brutally murdered. Disgusting."
Yeah, I'm sure you just wanted that memorial. I'm sure that was it because like that's obviously who Tyler Bowyer is. And these were Charlie's best friends in the world. That, my friend, is the problem.
Comments Section Highlights
Top comments from last episode. Steph writes: "Let's all give a warm welcome to Erika Kirk, Blake, Andrew, Mikey, and everyone else at Turning Point USA who tunes in along with us every day to watch Candace Owens." I wish they'd just come on the show. I've made the offer. I mean it. I'm wanting to sit down with them. I particularly would love to have a public conversation with Erika Kirk, who has nothing to hide except a lot of stuff apparently.
Olivia Joy writes: "One thing Candace has shown for sure is that everything eventually connects." I just think Romania, New York, real estate, the politics of it all, reality TV — there are some themes here that are hard to ignore is what I would say.
Easy Hammer writes: "Hearing Erika's written words spoken out loud gives me the same level of cringe as watching her say them on TV." It's so many words to say nothing. That drives me insane. Just say less. Just say less.
James the Least writes: "Being on the board of the US Air Force Academy sounds like the kind of job that you would need a background check for." Certainly. Well, her background is "I'm Charlie's wife. Hear me roar. I'm Charlie's wife. Charlie was qualified. So why am I not qualified? Isn't that how it works?" I'm not so good at math, but I guess just say I'm good at math, I guess, or something.
Amy Loves Music writes: "I know everything that you are saying is true. It's been going on for years. It's hard to trust anything. I love what you are doing — that you are doing what you can to find out the truth for your friend Charlie. I am not sure anything will ever be done. I am saddened by how the world is so corrupt."
I'm wondering — real estate in general, like is that just sort of — are we doing illegal things, right? Because real estate is how you hide money. It's like, you know, tradition — it's pretty traditional. It's a traditional historical understanding. A lot of real estate involved in this story is all I'm saying. And I find, like I said, her floating around Jeffrey Epstein in his orbit to be interesting. Very interesting.
Miss Ko writes: "I just don't get it. Had I been Charlie Kirk's wife, I would have had Candace and Tucker headlining his memorial and making his donors, who made him so fearful, regret the day that they started threatening him."
You would be a normal person, right? You would have that anger. You would have that rage. You would be like, "I don't even want to look at you because of the last thing that you said to Charlie." That's how I felt. No, she was overcome with the spirit of Lori or something and just was like, "I feel the opposite. I want to make amends with his enemies and send my PR person to attack his friends."
SB Beth writes: "For anyone questioning how fiercely Candace and Charlie fought for each other, watch their Turning Point event in Hawaii. I saw it again recently and nearly cried. Even now, though he's gone, they still stand together in this battle."
I have not seen that. I can't even remember like the context of what you're speaking about. I obviously remember going to Hawaii with Charlie. It was a great time. I remember we were wearing the leis. But yeah, I mean it is a thing. We did always have each other's back and I think that's partially what drives them crazy — is they tried to spin a narrative that they know there's not a shred of proof for. There just isn't a shred of proof for the idea that he was anything but my brother and that we fought a lot of battles together — even when we disagreed on topics, which there were some topics that we did disagree on and then eventually we sort of met back up in the middle. And let me tell you we were certainly meeting back up in the middle on the topic of Zionism. Very much so. He was sick of being bullied. He made that clear.
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I have one more comment here from Jay Nichols. She writes: "Melania used to be by Donald Trump's side all the time. Ever since Charlie Kirk's murder, she's been almost non-existent. What are your thoughts? Love you, girl. I admire your bravery and that you let no one walk all over you with the exception of your kiddos."
Actually, ironically, Melania's name came up with this Next Modeling thing. They were speaking about — because, you know, Melania came from Serbia and she was a model and she was in circles in their orbit. I don't believe she was managed by Next Model, but it's a small New York City world. And they actually quite liked Melania and said that people who thought that she aspirationally wanted to be the first lady probably had it very wrong and that she was quite aloof and that they knew she would end up with somebody powerful but that she did not probably aspire to be the first lady. So that's just a bit of feedback. Take from it what you will.
I did quite enjoy Melania. I did spend some time with her and I think she's very smart. I wonder. I wonder. I feel the whole family let Charlie down — not demanding a further investigation, allowing all of this to happen, continuing to not ask questions. The entire Trump family to me has in effect betrayed the legacy of Charlie Kirk.
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