Candace Owens covers the UVU assassination investigation, the Cornell 7 case, and the new White House press secretary
Candace Owens hosts a solo episode of her podcast, covering new investigative findings related to the September 10th assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Summary
Candace Owens opens with a lighthearted apology for missing a Monday episode before moving into the substantive content of the show. The bulk of the episode is devoted to new investigative findings in the Charlie Kirk assassination case, specifically introducing two figures — Brigadier General and Utah state legislator Val Peterson, and Provo police officer and fellow state legislator Tyler Clancy — and alleging that Clancy disposed of a bloodied bag belonging to a Turning Point USA affiliate on the day of the assassination. Owens presents audio from Frank Turek's appearance on a separate podcast as partial corroboration of this account. She also connects Clancy to Shainer Broderick, who had previously appeared in the investigation by retracing the alleged killer's steps, through a shared BYU lacrosse background. The episode then shifts to commentary on the new White House press secretary, Katie Zacharia, whom Owens criticizes sharply for appearing to read from notes during her introductory briefing, including her own name. Owens closes with commentary on the Cornell 7 case, arguing that the entire situation is evidence of societal collapse, and that no party involved — victim, perpetrators, or online commentators — deserves defense.
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Opening Apology and Pregnancy Update
Candace Owens: Happy Tuesday, you guys. An apology is due right here at the top. I saw this video floating around on the net and I would like to address it head-on. Let's hear it.
Clip audio: Candace Owens has been caught in a lie. I didn't want to do this. I didn't want to believe it, but I can't find any proof refuting what she said. Are you ready? Watch.
Candace Owens: "We'll see you guys on Monday." That was her Friday episode. And I've looked. I've looked everywhere. I have scoured the literal interwebs all over the place. I've gone to X. I've gone to Rumble. I've gone to YouTube. I went to CandaceOwens.com. I went everywhere looking for an episode, and she in fact did not see us Monday.
I am so, so, so sorry. I was caught red-handed. No excuses. I actually do have an excuse. I never make mistakes. This couldn't possibly be my fault. I am, by the way, still pregnant. People thought I gave birth. I mean, it was an absolute mess. But I want you guys to know right at the top here — it was Skyler's fault. Skyler, the producer. Right as soon as I said "We'll see you on Monday" and we went off air, he went, "No, Tuesday." But we were already off air, and I'm disappointed in him as a human being. He never ever forgets his holidays. He's always the one that reminds me there's a holiday coming up. So I just want all of us to forgive Skyler his mistake and move on from it.
And by the way, nobody is more disappointed that I didn't give birth than me. I am done. I am done with this pregnancy. So fingers crossed that it actually happens tomorrow or the next day.
Anyway, you guys, on today's episode we have a lot going on. I want to address the Cornell 7 case, which is dominating the news cycle — just want to give my general opinion. I also would like to comment on the new press secretary. She sure is something. But first, a most fascinating discovery regarding UVU. One that I've held on to because of my ever-pending litigations, which is now ready to be brought forth out into the light. And it involves an army general, a cop, and a bloodied bag on September 10th. How mysterious. Welcome back to Candace.
The UVU Investigation: Loose Lips and New Characters
Loose lips sink ships. Say it with me. Loose lips sink ships. It's a common expression, and it is relevant to today's episode.
There is a lot happening right now. A lot of people are trying to become famous by hating Candace Owens. What a weird thing. That's a very weird grift — I'm going to become famous for hating Candace Owens, I'm going to be the anti-Candace. Among them there is this kid that sort of looks exactly like Jimmy Neutron. Boy, does he love to talk. Gratefully, a few months ago he started yapping, telling everybody who would listen about more lawsuits that he was exclusively aware of that were going to be filed against me.
This character type — this avatar of an individual — is my personal favorite: the flamboyant guy who loves the cameras, loves to talk, is desperate for attention. They are just the truest examples of useful idiots. The kind of people you can ignore. The kind of people who think filing lawsuits for revenge is a good idea. Jimmy Neutron here just kept posturing to the public like he runs the town of Orem. He even claimed that he knew all of the potential jurors would vote to convict. Yap yap yap yap yap yap. Another one of these neocon chihuahuas. And anyway, he starts talking about who he's friends with and what he knows and how he's connected. And eventually he annoyed the right people. People came forward to me as sources because his head was big — literally and figuratively — with information that they had learned. And I just began quietly storing the information, investigating, calling people, waiting for the lawsuit to be filed, which I knew about in advance.
And today, the time has come to introduce you to a few new characters from our September 10th cast.
Introducing Val Peterson: Brigadier General, Legislator, University VP
First up is a man named Val Peterson. He is incredibly important. He's a faculty member at UVU. In fact, I want to make this very clear — the faculty is terrified of him. I'm told he is the most powerful man not just on campus, but in the state of Utah. He holds way more power than the president of UVU ever did or ever has. He is allegedly — I'll say this part, allegedly — decisively turning Turning Point USA against his own faculty members. Allegedly, according to them.
Fact-checking how much power Val Peterson holds was very easy. It was also a very shocking adventure. Let me state unequivocally that Mr. Val Peterson wears a lot of hats. At the same time. He's got a lot of hats.
Val started at UVU before it was UVU in June of 1987 — two years before I was even born. Back then it was just Utah Technical College. Today he is officially the Vice President of Administration and Strategic Relations. He oversees a budget of more than 50 million dollars. His administrative responsibilities include facilities and planning, athletics, university relations, strategic relations, and emergency management services. Everybody reports to him, plus environmental health and safety. He is the guy.
Also, aside from his very many duties at UVU, he also currently serves in Utah's House of Representatives. At the same time. He represents the 56th district from American Fork to Orem. I don't know how or why that's allowed or possible, but apparently in Utah it's a thing. As you will learn throughout this episode, there are a lot of people who are both serving in government plus managing their full-time civilian careers and other things. It's just crazy to recognize that you could have that much responsibility at UVU and also be serving in the House of Representatives, and that at no point would those things conflict.
And that's not all, ladies and gentlemen. Most interestingly, Val Peterson is a brigadier general. For 30 years he led the state's National Guard, particularly the state's Military Intelligence Brigade, which has six units across the state. He kept this up while at the same time managing his full-time employment with UVU.
Check out this article — this is from 2007, but I am just amazed with Val's career accomplishments. There's an expression that people often say: if you want to get something done, hand it to a busy mom. I think we should update that. We should just say hand it to Val Peterson.
This was published in 2007 when UVU was Utah Valley State College, and at this point in his military career he was a lieutenant colonel. It tells us:
"By day, Val Peterson of Orem is a seasoned administrator at Utah Valley State College. By evening, weekend, or whenever called, he is Lieutenant Colonel Peterson at the Utah Army National Guard. During a change of command ceremony on Saturday at the Utah Army National Guard's Draper headquarters, Peterson assumed command of the 300th Military Intelligence Brigade, a linguist and intelligence unit headquartered in Utah that has nearly 2,000 language specialist troops in six states. A large majority of the brigade's members have already or are currently serving deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan. He said it's a great honor and a great responsibility when you think in terms of the amount of individuals and the types of missions. Peterson said, 'My thoughts go back to the individual soldiers and being able to support them as best as possible, no matter what the mission is.' Major Hank McIntyre, spokesman for the Utah National Guard, said Peterson, as a Spanish linguist, is uniquely in touch with the needs of the 300th Military Intelligence Brigade members who split their military duties with civilian careers, making him a great fit for this new assignment. Lieutenant Colonel Peterson is a very personable, very approachable person. He personifies what the guard is, McIntyre said. A native of Moscow, Idaho, where his father was a university professor, Peterson went on a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to Colombia, where he gained a mastery of the Spanish language. Later, as a student at BYU — Brigham Young University — he heard about a linguist military intelligence unit of the Utah National Guard from roommates who were looking into possibly signing up. Along with the obvious educational benefits of serving, Peterson felt a sense of patriotism and pride in being able to serve his country. During the LDS mission in Colombia, where conscripted military service is required of all young men, he would watch as Colombian army trucks would roll down the street and literally snatch kids for boot camp if they didn't have ID proving that they had already served. 'That still sticks out in my mind,' Peterson said. 'I used to think of how little they had to defend and in reality how much we had to defend.' Employed by UVSC since 1987, Peterson is serving as the college's vice president for administrative and legislative affairs, and he holds a master's and a doctoral degree from BYU."
So that's a little bit about his background. The article goes on — you should read it in its entirety. It talks about his lifelong friendships and his two-decade-plus military career, and how his interest in military intelligence began at BYU, as you just heard.
Now he's retired as a brigadier general — so he went beyond ten more years — and he was responsible as a brigadier general for training, readiness, administration, and the uniform code of military justice for six major army commands within the state of Utah. So you can see why faculty members at UVU are terrified of this man. They don't find him to be warm and chummy. Quite the opposite. According to them, you obey him. He is the university.
Val Peterson's Whereabouts on September 10th
By the way, I should mention that on September 10th, Val Peterson was not at the university when Charlie Kirk was assassinated. How do we know that? Because the after-action report tells us. It tells us that at the time of the shooting, Peterson was approximately 45 minutes from campus. He joined response discussions by speakerphone while traveling to UVU and remained actively engaged, but he arrived later.
The important part is that he was 45 minutes away. So where exactly was he? Because we know he doesn't live 45 minutes away — he serves in the Utah House of Reps in Orem and American Fork. And I'm just going to throw out here: do you know what actually is 45 minutes away from campus? Salt Lake City is. That's where the National Guard air base is.
For clarity, I have no idea if Val Peterson was there. I only noted the National Guard presence generally speaking throughout Salt Lake City, because there was that — remember that lost bald guy, Blakey Pooh's girlfriend — who for whatever reason could not remember where he was in Salt Lake City or who he was with. Blake said he didn't go with Charlie to the event, but he was "marking time." An interesting way to phrase that. Marking time — that's a military expression.
So in my search to try to help Blakey recall where he might have been during this spell of amnesia, which happens often, I was looking at the neighborhood and I happened upon the fact that the National Guard Air headquarters was down the road. Also, just 15 minutes away in Draper, Utah, is where the National Guard Army is headquartered as well — which is where I just read the changing of the guard ceremony took place when Peterson was initially promoted to lieutenant colonel.
It would be interesting to know where Val Peterson was on September 10th, I think, is my point. For now, I just know where he wasn't at 12:23 p.m. He was not on campus at UVU.
Tyler Clancy: Another Man of Many Hats
And guys, you're going to think this is crazy, but Val wears even more hats than just that. Beyond the military and the administration, he also served as the church leader to some BYU students — one student in particular who we're going to talk about today, who is similarly very impressive. His name is Tyler Clancy. I know, just what we need — another Tyler. Tyler Clancy. This is a name that you will do well to remember.
So as I mentioned before, Tyler Clancy's name hit my radar because of Jimmy Neutron yapping about lawsuits to too many people. Tyler Clancy, like his church leader Val Peterson, attended BYU — not at the same time, to be clear. Tyler Clancy is very young, actually born in 1997. And yet, like Val Peterson, he is remarkably accomplished.
Tyler Clancy was the youngest person to serve in the Utah House of Representatives since 1834, at the age of 25. And yes, he served alongside his church leader and colleague Val Peterson, who spoke out at the time saying this about Tyler Clancy:
"Tyler is a natural leader. He wants to serve his community, and I think this is just a demonstration of that," said Rep. Val Peterson, who has represented portions of Utah County in the House for more than a decade and was Clancy's church leader during his time at BYU, helping the young lawmaker navigate the learning curve inherent in the legislative process. According to Peterson, what Clancy lacks in years is made up for by his effort to get involved.
Elsewhere, it tells us that Clancy's reputation for community leadership was mirrored by the leadership role he earned on the BYU lacrosse team, according to Matt Schneck, head coach of BYU men's lacrosse:
"It wasn't just the on-field capabilities that he had developed. It was also his leadership and the way that he was able to use his personality and his humor to also create very strong relationships with his teammates, to be able to help lead them both on and off the field."
Park that second quotation in the back of your mind — the lacrosse bit. We'll come back to that.
The point I'm making, the takeaway I'd like you to have, is that just like his church leader and House of Representatives colleague Val, Tyler Clancy wears many hats. And on September 10th, 2025, not only was he serving in the House of Reps, but he was also serving as a Provo Police Department detective in the Special Victims Unit. He's also on ICAC — Internet Crimes Against Children.
Check out this Instagram post from May 20th, 2025. It reads: "Rep. Tyler Clancy doesn't just talk public safety, he lives it. Today he received the Lrand and Beth Baker Award for his service as a detective in Provo PD's Special Victims Unit, where he helped" — you guys got it, you know what I'm going to say — "rescue children, dismantle human trafficking rings, and bring predators to justice. Congratulations, Rep. Clancy. Utah is safer because of your work."
Yay. I agree. Thank you, Tyler, for your work dismantling human trafficking rings. Everybody is doing it. Everybody is — I don't know anybody who doesn't do it. I don't know anybody who doesn't do it. These people don't exist. Anyway, let's speed up.
The Bloodied Bag: Tyler Clancy on September 10th
Where was Officer Tyler Clancy on September 10th? Intimately involved, actually. And I'm going to say allegedly here, but I do want to make it clear that we reached out to Tyler Clancy for comment to confirm these facts ahead of today's show and we have not yet heard back. So I'm open to updating these facts if more information lands upon our desk. We also offered to have him on the show to speak about this.
What we have confirmed through other people is that Tyler Clancy was in fact on duty as a Provo police officer on September 10th. He was allegedly at Timpanogos Hospital shortly after Charlie arrived. And then when Erika Kirk was due to land, it was Tyler Clancy who was dispatched from Timpanogos with another officer to escort Erika from the airport. But he didn't go alone, allegedly. I'm told he had some Turning Point USA members, staff members, or affiliates in his car, because the feds were doing Uber that day — everyone was just getting Uber rides.
I would like to know who those TPUSA members or affiliates were. Lawsuits make it easy to get this sort of information. Stay tuned.
The relevant thing is that at some point, one of those Turning Point members or affiliates left a bloodied bag in Tyler Clancy's car, and Tyler then disposed of that bloodied bag on the same day. Allegedly. Now, that's a pretty big allegedly. It's a pretty big allegation.
A couple of thoughts here. My first thought was: what officer in their right mind would dispose of a bloodied item rather than moving it immediately into evidence on the day of the biggest assassination since JFK, especially while the killer is still actively on the loose? We don't have any information. We don't know if Charlie was set up by those around him. We don't know if the killer, even if he is caught, was acting alone. We don't know anything. It just seems like an extraordinary thing to dispose of a bloodied item. As an officer, surely no officer worth his salt would deem that to be an acceptable idea.
But I have to tell you, I am inclined to believe this account, which has been verified by multiple Provo and Orem sources, mostly because when I mentioned this to Baron Coleman at a separate time, he brought to my attention that a similar and potentially corroborating story was told by none other than Frank Turek. Yes, ladies and gentlemen — Frank Turek, with an ever so slight variation on the story that we heard, has already admitted that he gave his bloodied bag to a police officer to dispose of.
Frank has this way of getting ahead of things. Baron said, "Yeah, he said that recently." The exact date was April 9th, 2026. You can take a listen to what he said. It was on a podcast called the Apostate Prophet podcast, released on April 9th, 2026. Take a listen.
Frank Turek (audio clip): And then we all had to go from Orem — where we were, you and I were just last week — we all had to go from there to Salt Lake City because Mikey and Katheryn Castro, also a great team member at TPUSA, arranged for JD Vance to come and take Charlie's body back to Phoenix. So we had to go to Salt Lake City for that. And they wouldn't let us back in the car that we had taken over to the hospital until — because they considered it part of the crime scene — until they looked at it, and about 5:30 they released it to us so we could go back in the car, and I had to get everything I had, which was in that car. My computer bag, my wallet, my passport, everything was in there. It turned out that Charlie was laying on it across the back seat. It was between the two bucket seats and it was full of blood. And as I pulled it out, his necklace — which we were looking for — was across the top of it. He was wearing a necklace and it came off. And Erika had asked, "Where's his necklace?" because it wasn't on his body. And so as I'm pulling the bag out, there's this necklace. And the cop there goes, "I'll take that." I go, "No, you won't. You're not taking this. I'm giving this to Erika. She wants it." So I just put it in my pocket. And as we drove to Salt Lake City, I took everything of value out of that bag. I'm wearing scrubs now — in fact, everybody that was attending to Charlie was in scrubs now. We couldn't wear the clothes we were wearing. Blood. So I just — I don't want Erika to see the bag. I don't want her to see the blood. So I just told the cop sitting next to me, "Can you dispose of this bag?" Where? Once we get there. Yeah.
Candace Owens: A lot going on in that story. By the way — I'm just noting this because I had never seen this before — I didn't realize he also says that Charlie was lying on the bag. Did that complicate the CPR that you were doing at all? Do we normally conduct CPR while people are laid on top of a bag? There's a lot with Frank's stories that don't really add up. I know he's only doing CPR for like 30 seconds at the end there, but I just feel like doing CPR in that tight of space and now over a bag is really something.
Also, these bravado-type stories — "I told that cop, 'No, you're not. Give me that. I'm giving it to Erika. Give me that. This goes with me.'" Brian Harpole's in there yelling, "Do the medical, do the medical. Just doing the medical. Give him five cc's of this. I'm going to jump on top of him." None of it's making any sense, ladies and gentlemen. None of that is making any sense.
But I will say it does seem corroborative. It does seem to corroborate the idea that there was a police officer involved. At the very least it establishes that a police officer was either told — separate from what we heard, slight variation — or willfully threw out this bloodied bag. And I'm inclined to believe that was Tyler Clancy.
Tyler Clancy's Promotion and His Connection to Shainer Broderick
Now I should tell you a couple of other things about Tyler Clancy. Very shortly after the assassination, Governor Cox promoted him, allowing him to achieve another Utah state first. Tyler left his position as a Provo Police Department SVU and ICAC detective and was instead appointed as the state's youngest ever homeless coordinator. The appointment was announced on October 30th. You can see it here on social media, announced by Governor Cox himself. Here's what it says:
"Today I appointed Rep. Tyler Clancy as Utah State's homeless coordinator. I'm confident in his leadership to deliver results — faster help for those who need it and cleaner, safer streets. Thank you to Wayne Neerhouser, our outgoing state homeless coordinator, for his service and congratulations on his retirement."
Youngest ever in the state, once again.
But guys, that's not it. This is where it gets really fun, because you will never guess who I learned that Tyler Clancy is allegedly best friends with — among his class of friends, his generation. This, according to multiple people with direct knowledge, is going to be a blast from the past.
Let's blast ourselves back to the early days of this investigation. We're all looking for answers. We don't know what to make of anything. It's September 14th. We've just been told that Tyler Robinson is in custody — we were told this the day before, September 13th or the 12th. Details are not fast. The feds are telling us stories. The stories are kind of changing. We're all investigating ourselves. Are more people involved? We don't know.
And lo and behold, there appears a young man who posted on Instagram just after the manhunt on September 14th, when everything was very fresh and we're looking for clues. A Shainer Broderick swoops in with his friends Robbie Hild and Gerno, who volunteered — according to Shainer, I should say — to retrace the steps of the alleged killer. And we covered that on our show, obviously. Here's that post:
"I took my friends to my grandma's house and we retraced his steps and took pictures in the exact place that the security cameras caught him. I've been through this new experience for the last few days. I'm still very glad to have attended to support Charlie Kirk and to see him. This last pic shows Converse-branded footprints. #Orem #CharlieKirk."
Well, guess what? Tyler Clancy and Shainer are best friends. He's in the same friend group with Robbie Hild, because the two of them played lacrosse with one another at BYU — the BYU where Val Peterson was the church leader of Tyler Clancy.
I just thought, what an amazing coincidence. I am so grateful that all of them were around and on hand to assist in such a meaningful way — whether it's Shainer contributing, which eventually was a video of him retracing steps with Converse, or whether it was Tyler Clancy who assisted by throwing away a bloodied bag. Allegedly.
Yeah, I know more. But we have pending lawsuits and depositions, and that's where all of the magic really happens. In my experience, all the magic really happens when you get depositions. I love me a deposition, because I don't lie and I have nothing to hide. It's been my experience that people who posture a lot don't love them. They like to posture a lot to the public, but privately they don't love them. That's my experience. We'll leave it there.
The Unidentified Fire Captain
I would also like to add here that we are still unable to determine who the fire captain was that provided CPR to Charlie Kirk upon arrival at Timpanogos. It is a remarkable detail that we cannot confirm. This should be public information. Obviously I will be able to subpoena the information, and I should be able to request this instantly because I'm involved in lawsuits, but I'm wondering why we can't figure this out sooner. I'm wondering if it's someone who was maybe wearing multiple hats — someone who's a police officer, a firefighter, a teacher down the road, and then just jumps in as a fire captain.
The people who are sending me schedules of the fire department — those people have already retired. So we have a clue as to one person who could fit the bill, but we have no confirmation. That just seems weird. More people would be talking about that. A fire captain doing CPR on Charlie when you arrived at the hospital — I have heard, though I can't confirm, that he was actually in an ambulance and jumped out of the ambulance and assisted. But it's not a part of the legend of Frank Turek or the legend of Brian Harpole. So I don't know. If you know something, please email us at Candace.com. And I will again state we are looking for people with direct knowledge of who that so-called fire captain was. We'll find out, though. I'm sure of it.
The New White House Press Secretary
Sad announcement: America has fallen. I think there's a lot of evidence of that everywhere, but where I find the best case to be made for the fact that America has fallen is what's happening inside the White House press room.
Let's just rewind. Trump 1.0, back when I was proud to wear a MAGA hat — you couldn't catch me wearing one ever today. The energy was Kayleigh McEnany. Kayleigh McEnany was whip-smart. Beyond the fact that she's an attractive young woman, nobody really cared about that because she was whip-smart. No one could deny the fact that she graduated Harvard with a law degree. She also spent time at Oxford University for a semester. She was so overprepared in the press room with her binder. Anytime anybody asked her a single question, she was just on it. She gave as good as they gave her. Went back and forth, and you just went, "Okay, she's a star. There's no question that she's a star."
Then we got Karoline Leavitt in 2.0, and I just felt that she was gaslighting us at all times — lying the whole time — and it felt different. The MAGA movement felt different and we were kind of making the transition into the neocon movement.
And now we have someone whose name is Katie Zacharia. It was recently announced that she would be taking over from Karoline Leavitt. And we didn't know what to expect, but we didn't expect this. As a society, we didn't expect what looks like a true Saturday Night Live skit. It looks like someone is making fun of the press secretary — that this is not actually the real press secretary. So I'm just going to let you watch her greeting the press.
Katie Zacharia (video clip): Good morning. I am so honored to work for President Trump and the American people as the new White House press secretary. I want to thank President Trump for his trust that he has placed in me. I have wanted to work for him for a very long time. I'm looking forward to working with each of you as well, especially as we are in the middle of the midterm blitz with energy and excitement never seen before in the history of midterms, thanks to President Trump. Just look no further than last night in Youngstown, Ohio, where President Trump delivered another blockbuster rally out on the trail. The arena was overflowing with enthusiasm as thousands came out to support President Trump, as well as special guest Jake Paul and football legend John Gruden. The president also announced the Department of War has officially selected Cleveland, Ohio as the new home for the US Navy's submarine component repair center. This massive 46,000 square foot facility will manufacture, repair, and maintain key parts for virtually all new and existing submarines. This is historic.
Candace Owens: America has fallen. That's it. It's over.
Hi, I am Candace Owens. I would like to thank President Trump for picking me. I am so honored and excited. Yesterday in Youngstown, Ohio, Trump was on the trail and the excitement was palpable.
Why can't she remember? This is like three points. I can't even pain myself to watch that further, because why can't she remember her name and thanking Trump? That's not something you've got to read off a cue card. You just come out there. You say, "Hi, I'm Katie. I'm so excited. This is the first time I'm doing a briefing. I'm so grateful to the president. Thank you so much for choosing me. We've been in communication about this moment for a long time. I can't believe it's actually happening. Let's jump right into what we have — last night he was in Youngstown, Ohio. The energy is palpable. Midterms are around the corner." You don't need to read that. You memorize everything that you just said. Why are you looking down and reading things that should just come naturally to you?
The note cards are for specific points — how many people were in attendance, you might not want to forget the number because people fact-check you. We're moving the headquarters of the Navy to Youngstown, Ohio — okay, how much that's going to cost might be a little point. She's just reading the entire thing, including her own name.
I don't know what to make of that. That's absurd. I will not be gaslit about this. I'm not going to pretend that this is excellence or that she's just shy. If she's that shy, then she should not have been selected for this position. If she got up there and froze and forgot her own name, then she should not have been selected for this position, because that is embarrassing. You should be embarrassed by that.
It seems like he's just trying to find a cute girl to fill the role. Or I'm going to guess there are donors somehow involved in that — oh, I want my daughter or my wife, I gave you this much. I have to look into it to know that that was not based on meritocracy. She was not selected based on meritocracy.
In fact, journalists are having trouble confirming her background story. They're falling into a hole. It's like with Erika Kirk — when Erika Kirk says she was in law school, or rather that she has a doctorate. It's hard to confirm that. Dr. Erika Kirk. Well, with Katie, they can't confirm that she graduated law school. She just keeps dancing around the question and saying that she worked at a legal firm in China alongside her husband. They're like, "Okay, well, where did you get your legal degree from?" And she's like, "Well, I studied some law at Pepperdine University" — same university Erika went to for a year, which we couldn't confirm whether she was in person or just doing it online. Shady little university.
Who is this woman, and why was she selected? What's the real reason she was selected? It's awful. She should be fired on day one, but we've got to just keep going along with this idiocracy and pretending that any of this is normal. This has to be a Truman Show. Like Charlie was living the Truman Show and now we're all living the Truman Show. And I'm just waiting for someone to yell cut. Just go, "Yeah, we were just kidding with you. Everything was fake. It's totally fine. None of it's real."
And as a part of that, I do want to address this Business Insider headline: "Trump's new press secretary was asked where she passed the bar. Her answer just raised more questions." It reads: in a statement, she said she "practiced international transaction law with all the appropriate credentials." She did not say if she had passed the bar in any state. What? What state did you pass the bar? This isn't hard. You can't keep gaslighting us about these women who are pretending to be credentialed and they're not.
The Cornell 7 Case
Anyway, on that note, if you need another marker for where we are at in society, it would be the Cornell 7 case. I'm just amazed that people feel the need to take sides in a case like this.
I want everyone to just zoom out regarding the Cornell 7 case and really understand where we are at in American society — that you are feeling the need to take a side regarding a case where people sent their kids to school, which would plunge you into debt, hundreds of thousands of dollars to Cornell. And on one side you have a female character who agreed to have sexual relations with, from what I'm seeing, two guys at a frat party, who agreed to get high snorting a horse tranquilizer. This story begins with horse tranquilizer. People who have all agreed to have a drug-fueled sex party.
So you have people that take this side and this perspective, and some people feel fired up about this because now there are allegations regarding a gang rape. People are looking up text messages. They're going, "Oh, well, she was texting while this was happening," because one of the people that she agreed to sleep with then sent a text message to the entire frat house in a group chat and said — basically, and I'm making this sound nicer than it is because it's horrific — "free sex upstairs."
Common sense tells me that even if she agreed to having a threesome and to doing horse tranquilizer throughout the night, she probably didn't agree to having a text sent out inviting the rest of the house. That just — common sense tells me that no one then says, "Well, could you text the entire house and invite them? Because I'm not done. I'm on horse tranquilizer. Please invite more people." Everyone involved in this story is disgusting.
The only winners are those of us who have been pleading with people to take their kids out of school, telling you that we are basically living in Epstein society. Everything about this case is evidence that we are living in Epstein society. People are angry, screaming at each other, ending friendships. She agreed to just this point, and then beyond that it wasn't agreed. And she was texting the next morning. Again, I don't know how much horse tranquilizer she took — sounds like it was a lot — but yes, it is also true that when you do drugs, you can have things happen that you don't remember.
I mean, this reminds me of sitting down with Hunter Biden. He agreed to do crack at a Motel 6 or whatever it was. He agreed to have a stripper. And then that stripper robbed him. He didn't agree to that. He didn't consent to that. But the stripper was probably also on crack as well. Who's to blame? Who's to blame? Again, what are we even talking about here? This is supposed to be a university where kids go to learn.
What has gone on that people are now doing horse tranquilizer at frat parties? Everyone here was raised wrong. Every single one of them. There's no good guy in this. I'd like to speak to the parents of the frat kids — they're despicable. The idea of sending a text message like that, even if you're under the influence — why would you send a message like that inviting other people to sleep with someone? That's not a defensible position. No one should be defending that. It's gross. Do I have to tell you that you shouldn't be defending that? That you shouldn't be looking at this and going, "Oh, poor victim, he just did horse tranquilizer and then invited everybody else to come in for a sex party." That's not something you should be defending.
You also shouldn't be defending someone who's putting themselves in these circumstances. I don't feel like I need to defend Hunter Biden if I get called to the scene of the crime and the stripper took his wallet and stole everything from him and he's like, "Oh, I consented to doing crack, but I didn't consent to her robbing me after." What have we come to as a society?
I want to mandate everyone into prison for a year. If this is the America that you believe in, vote me for dictator, because everybody's going to prison — including the parents, because everyone was raised wrong. And I might even sentence some of these people online who are just making comments and being so vitriolic, like there's a hero of this story. I look at this scenario and I'm disgusted with everybody. I'm quite literally disgusted with everybody.
The victim in this story is me. Okay, I want to be honest. The victim of the story is me for having to read through everybody trying to intellectualize and communicate to everybody about who the true victims are. The victims are those of us standing by going — the fact that we are having this discussion about something that took place at a university where kids are supposed to achieve higher education is in and of itself one of these markers of how far American society has fallen.
So I'd like everybody to go to prison. That's my opinion. And hopefully you can get behind that. And when the time comes — maybe it's 2028 — you elect me to be dictator of the United States. And I will leave it at that.
Listener Comments and Closing Remarks
Candace Owens: My producer pointed out that somebody who I actually plan to have as my press secretary — definitely in the running, it's between Theo Von and Tim Dylan — had a similar take on this case, which makes sense because Tim Dylan seems like one of the only rational people in America. The comedians are somehow the most rational people that we have. They should be replacing politicians. So let's listen to what Tim Dylan, my future press secretary when I'm the dictator of the United States, had to say about the Cornell 7 case.
Tim Dylan (audio clip): Nobody would be proud if these were your sons. Truly, think about that. No one would be proud. And as far as her behavior, I don't love that if it's my daughter, frankly. So I don't love it. I don't want any of these people being my children. Can I say that? I don't have children. You can say that. But can I say I don't want any of them being my children? Is that okay? I don't want any of these people being my children. Because the behavior that they engaged in is not what I spend the money to send my kids to Cornell. I spend good money to send my kids to Cornell. I don't have children or a family, but I spend good money to send my kids to Cornell. I have a cat, but if my cat went to Cornell — I spent a lot of money to get my cat into Cornell. If I sent my cat to Cornell and it's a gang and we're in the news, I'm not happy. So none of them are my pick to have as a son or a daughter. If I had a son or a daughter that was involved in this type of activity, I would sit them down and I would go, "Do you know how much me and your mother sacrifice to do this? Do you know how hard it is?" And yes, I get it, college is supposed to be about experimentation and figuring out who you are, but it's loser. Those texts — you can whip it out — loser. "There's free." Not a bit. Not a bit. This is scumbag behavior and it should not be celebrated or defended.
Candace Owens: I agree. I just don't get it. We were drinking Red Bull vodkas when I was in college and we were blacking out — I'm not going to sit here and pretend that we didn't. But I don't know what's gone on since then as the university system has become something else. And I just feel like we are the United States of Epstein at this moment. We're all lowering ourselves by even screaming about this. We just have to move on from it.
Anyway, top comments from last episode, which was last week Thursday. Salttorm writes: "Episode 400 and I have been here for all of them. Thank you for not letting this go, Candace." Thank you so much.
Fuzzy Bear writes: "More people trust Candace than all the government combined, and I am here for it." I hope that's actually — I strive — that's a very low bar, to trust more than the government, because I don't trust the government at all. I mean, at all. The more that we get into the Charlie story — by the way, tomorrow is Charlie Kirk's birthday, October 14th. So we will be here and we will keep pushing. We only have a few more episodes before I am off air. I think four, five, seven episodes before I am off air for maternity leave. That's crazy.
A couple of comments from today's episode. Seven Sheets writes: "America might be falling, but it's not fallen. But we do need more voices like yours. I am disgusted by my country that is trying to convict a clearly innocent man over the J6 bombing. I cannot look at that sweet man without being outraged about what our lying government is putting him through." I totally agree with that and we should talk more about the Brian Cole case. I'll be sure to speak more about that before we go off air for maternity leave. I'll pick a day.
Ali writes: "I need a journalist to ask Erika — I know Ben did TPUSA events before with Charlie, but one day before his death he said he is abandoning the pro-Israel cause. Why haven't you done that? Why didn't you say he is opposed to the Iran war when you were asked, because Erika has betrayed Charlie's legacy?" Obviously, everything that she's doing — it's just completely crazy that she doesn't author her tweets. And when she tweets this thing of like, "Why I sat down with Vanity Fair — because Charlie believed in sitting down with people that disagree with you" — you know, he was referring to the students on campus that disagree with you, not Vanity Fair. What are you talking about? Stop saying stuff. Just stop speaking, please.
"I decided to sit down with people that disagree with me. I'll be doing a spread in Vogue. I'll be speaking to people via Tatler. The New York Times — people that I disagree with." No. He meant get on the ground and answer questions that might make you uncomfortable. It will sharpen your arguments. Learn how to deal with people pushing back. We don't need the army, the vice president, and Trump's entire administration. She's just — it makes me sick. Charlie was a man of the people. She is the exact opposite of that, and it makes me sick.
James Elise writes: "Every woman in Trump's orbit absolutely wrecked their faces with disfiguring plastic surgery. It makes you wonder if he's the one encouraging it." Yeah, they call it Mara-a-Lago face. They don't call it Mara-a-Lago face for nothing. It's a face. It can be yours. You can buy it if it's what you want. Go for it. I'm not hating. Do your thing.
Creative Media Channel writes: "My birthday is October 18th. I can't help but see the spiritual connection Charlie and I would have had or perhaps had. Rest in peace, Charlie. I can't wait to meet you one day." Well, happy birthday. I think we'll be off air on the 18th.
Zamit writes: "Blessings, Candace, for the beautiful new light that you are bringing into our world." Thank you so much, everybody. I just hope that I give birth imminently. My sister sent me a text — she's like, "I had a dream." And I'm like, "Good, good. Maybe it's going to happen tonight." I don't think it's going to happen tonight, to be honest.
The One You Feed writes: "Obviously the new White House press secretary is being coached by Erika. Her advice is to throw a bunch of words in a proverbial blender and start speaking. They are both from the school of inflate your schooling — summa cum laude, whatever." Yeah, that is true. And yeah, there's something about Pepperdine. Something about Pepperdine is what I will say. They are turning out a very specific kind of individual.
Tivoli Wy writes: "Any true Candace fan knows that you take all federal holidays. I might have an advantage being a postmaster. Thank you for all that you do. Enjoy your time off. God bless." It is true. We take all federal holidays. And it is true that it is always Skyler that reminds me before we go off air. He's like, "No, I'm off on Monday" in my ear. So that's why we blamed Skyler. That was totally appropriate. I could do no wrong, especially this pregnant.
Lola Wild writes: "Candace, you are the bravest journalist alive. I loved your Theo Von interview." Like 3.5 million of you have watched that interview. I think it's like his biggest interview of the year — it's on track to be, at least. So thank you guys for watching that.
Someone writes: "I am genuinely asking to be you for Halloween. I'm white and I fear it may come off as blackface." It's okay. If you want to be me for Halloween, do it. Go out there and be me. But you just have to be pregnant. That's the only thing I ask.
ACDO writes: "Shout out to all the good people in positions of power that decided to bring clues and truth to light. There's a special place in heaven for them." I believe that, and there are just so many of us now. It really does feel like gang gang. We are just more people inspiring more people. And in many ways you have to be grateful for the idiots — the idiots make more mistakes. The people that are trying to launch their platforms off of hating me make more mistakes, and they encourage people to come out too. So don't disregard the useful idiots as well. But the majority of this has obviously been because of the sleuths who at first took tremendous risk to speak out, and now it seems like it's less risk to speak out — but it is risk nonetheless. So I want to acknowledge that from the bottom of my heart.