Candace Owens reviews new footage and commentary on the first anniversary of Charlie Kirk's death
Candace Owens presents new surveillance footage, addresses Turning Point USA's response to the vandalism of a Charlie Kirk statue, and critiques Alex Clark's anniversary episode.
Summary
Candace Owens opens Episode 386 of the Candace podcast on the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's death, noting that Turning Point USA's Alex Clark marked the occasion not with a tribute to Charlie but with an episode focused on forgiving Candace Owens. Owens presents new surveillance footage of the individual identified as Tyler Robinson on the day of the shooting, arguing the footage shows no visible firearm and raises questions about whether this person is the same individual seen in earlier footage. She also presents footage of Tarl Farnsworth in a van approximately 30 minutes after the shooting, reviewing what she believes is footage on a laptop, and argues this raises questions about potential evidence tampering given testimony that original SD cards were not handed to the SBI. Owens addresses the discrepancy between Frank Turek's and Brian Harpole's accounts of whether CPR was performed in the car, using commentary from comedian Bobby Saucelito to highlight what she sees as Frank Turek's evasive explanations. She also covers the vandalism of the newly erected Charlie Kirk statue at Turning Point USA's Arizona headquarters, criticising the organisation for using the incident to fundraise rather than releasing surveillance footage to identify the perpetrators.
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Alex Clark's Anniversary Episode and the CPR Discrepancy
Candace Owens: Happy Monday. Let's first check in on what I expect must have been a beautiful tribute given to Charlie by those who purport to be carrying on his legacy, one year on. Let's hear it.
Alex Clark: It has been so hard for me in the last year just thinking about—
Candace Owens: Me too. I could finish that sentence for her. It's been hard for me to think about the fact that Charlie is no longer here, all the memories that we won't make with him, grappling with the reality that his children are going to grow up without a father. But go on, go on, Alex.
Alex Clark: How can I ever forgive someone like Candace Owens?
Candace Owens: Oh, not what I was expecting. To be honest, Alex, I thought that you might have been headed somewhere else with that. But of course, they focused on me on September 10th. A little bit of a weird thing to post on September 10th.
Speaking of which, over at headquarters in Arizona, they did erect a statue of Charlie in front of their campus. Two days later, they now claim — without any positive evidence, by the way — that the left, the left in particular, has vandalized that statue with red paint. And true to what Turning Point USA has become, they are already trying to fundraise off of the act of leftist vandalism. We're going to discuss all of that, but first, of course, more footage from September 10th to get you through this slow Monday.
Welcome back to Candace. It's always been easier for TPUSA to forgive Tyler Robinson than it is for them to forgive me — for what, I don't know. We'll talk about it in a bit.
Blake Hariff's Hospital Scrubs
Anyway, where did we leave off? We certainly discovered something interesting this past Wednesday, namely about Blake Hariff, one of the many individuals that were put onto Charlie's security detail on September 10th. Blake Hariff, we had noted to the public, had no blood on him. It was important to note that he also did not help to carry or transport Charlie to the hospital thereafter. And yet we discovered that rather mysteriously, he's wearing scrubs from Timpanogos Hospital. Presumably by nighttime he's wearing hospital scrubs — we're assuming it's from Timpanogos on the basis of the stories that have been shared by Frank Turek. Everybody, they were just handing these scrubs out.
Despite racking our brains, we could not think of a reason why that would make any sense — why Blake Hariff in particular would be wearing the hospital scrubs. Now, that doesn't mean that there isn't a sensible reason. It just means that we can't come up with one at all. Even under a pretend scenario where Blake went to the hospital sometime thereafter, perhaps to provide more security to the emergency wing alongside Brian Harpole — who said he was out there, "no one's going in because I'm Brian Harpole" — all that seems pretty strange and unbelievable. But even if that were the case and he went later and was providing security, why would he have blood on him? Still doesn't make any sense.
We had received a few emails from people suggesting that it might be the case that the feds did their job, took his shirt into evidence, and that would indeed be a rational thought — were we dealing with a circumstance where the federal government were dotting every i, crossing every t. But if you really think about it, it fails upon a further common sense test. Because why would the feds collect Blake Hariff's shirt, which had no blood on it, but not collect Charlie Kirk's bloodied necklace and the bloodied microphone? We also know that they immediately released other belongings of Charlie's, namely his sports coat that he had on at the restaurant event that took place in Salt Lake City — and that had blood on it, just so you guys know, because it was in the back of the car. So that's something that you would think the feds would hold on to. No, they instantly released that. It went back home to Arizona. So it becomes pretty difficult for us to imagine that for some reason they decided to strip Blake Hariff in particular, despite him having no blood on him. It doesn't add up to me.
Now, there were some other people who suggested that it might have been out of exceeding caution, because maybe Blake, when he slid across the table, may have got some explosive residue on him — if we are running the theory that it was an explosive that took Charlie out. And that would then fit in with why we're removing soil and why we have an emergency paver situation. It certainly is an interesting theory that out of exceeding caution, everybody who was around him on the ground — as Frank Turek was in the back of the car — the feds took care of their clothes. We're going to leave it at that. It's an interesting theory.
Frank Turek and the CPR Discrepancy
Speaking of that interesting theory, Frank Turek is an individual that I'm dying to speak to. I don't know how to book this guy. If he reached out to me and said he'd come on the show today, I'd have him on today, because he could help us to debunk a lot of things. That's all we want. We don't want to be wrong. It doesn't pay to be wrong. We just want answers to our questions, and we'd like Frank Turek to address the condition of the car photos — which were never meant to be released — that we released following the assassination. We'd certainly like him to explain why he and Brian Harpole have totally different memories as to whether or not CPR was performed in the car during the short car journey on the way to the hospital.
He did kind of explain. He was released on September 10th, because everybody's honoring Charlie by talking about me. So I've told you guys that for the last three years, I've been stalked by my former employer — legitimately a mentally deranged little dwarf, Jeremy Boring. He even declared publicly that if his only contribution to the world is trying to destroy me, he'd be content with the rest of his life. He was the former CEO of Daily Wire. Please bring back insane asylums. He is so far into this three-year psychosis, having fired me — this is like, you know, hate to see you go but love to watch you leave sort of a thing — that he's now partnering with anyone who will say anything negative about me. He doesn't even care. He's referred to Laura Loomer as a national treasure in this pursuit. He told someone like Jessica Reed Krauss that she has all the same natural talents as Candace, but she's just not as big as Candace because she has better morals or something.
I just want to show you this — this is a real collage, and by no means is it extensive. This is just what we could fit onto one card of Jeremy just talking, desperate for my attention on the internet. "The Daily Wire created a monster." "Her toxic femininity." "Candace's receipts." "Why women believe Candace." "One of the darkest things I've ever seen." "Candace has nothing but false accusations." "Candace gave off massive red flags." He's kind of reimagined himself as like a philosopher of Candace, but I just did not know this man like that. He was always just doing his own stuff outside of the company, burning through cash. This is three cards, by the way. "She's gambling her own soul." "Don't let the assassins win." "Left-wing violence in Candace's sinister lie." "The USS Liberty lie." Picture of Candace. "Civil War on the right." This is crazy. Anyway, I'm just happy it's public. I had to deal with it privately in court, and now people just get to see how crazy this man is.
There will never be a better description of him than the one offered by Shane Kashman, where he said Jeremy Boring is Ted Bundy doing a Mr. Rogers impression. And he's now just sort of pretending like he has a podcast when in reality he's just hosting any person or topic that runs counter to what I say. I could say anything — I could say, "Hey, kids, don't drink bleach," and he would be like, "Clorox." So naturally he hosted Frank Turek on his show, and he keeps trying to insert himself in the Charlie Kirk narrative. He was never friends with Charlie Kirk. He didn't know Charlie Kirk. And he's now talking about how he's going to be touring with Turning Point USA Faith.
And Frank Turek goes on the show and addresses this rather major discrepancy between him and Brian Harpole on the rather significant matter of whether or not CPR was given to Charlie. And what does Frank Turek want us to know about this discrepancy? Well, that it doesn't really matter. I'm going to present it within the context of a clip created by Bobby Saucelito. I don't know if you're following him — he's hilarious, just a natural comedian and political commentator. He's basically responding to Frank Turek on behalf of all of us, because it's what you're thinking as you're watching this bizarre excuse that Frank Turek is about to give. Bobby's handle on Instagram is Take Naps. Here we go.
Frank Turek: Anything's possible. It's possible that aliens killed Charlie. They don't have evidence. What they do have receipts for are incongruities between eyewitness accounts. Like, for example, I have an incongruity with Brian Harpole, who was in the car as well, where I said that I did CPR and Brian says I didn't. Yes, that is kind of weird. That's why people have been asking about it. And so that's an incongruity. Whether or not I did CPR has no bearing on who killed Charlie Kirk. It's an irrelevant detail. It's an irrelevant consequence.
Bobby Saucelito: Nobody said it does, Frank. They're just saying who's lying about it and why. Perhaps it is, but somebody is lying about it. That doesn't support their overall theory. You see, it kind of does, though. We're all familiar with puzzles, right? When you dump the pieces out of the puzzle on the table, it doesn't look like anything. You don't just go, "I don't know where these go, I'm just going to stop now." You start moving them around to where you think they might belong. And maybe that changes later. But when you come to a seemingly insignificant detail in a very high-profile case and someone is lying, it makes you say, "What is that?" Because someone's lying, Frank. Don't you see? You can't both be telling the truth. What we don't know yet is why.
Frank Turek: The truth of the matter is that going from that site to the hospital, we weren't doing CPR. We were trying to stop the bleeding. It was only in the last 20 or 30 seconds of the ride.
Bobby Saucelito: Recounting the same story is not doing you any favor. Because the question is, how? If you were in the trunk, how did you do that? And how would Brian not remember you jumping over the seat to do it?
Frank Turek: So for the last 20 or 30 seconds, I tried to give him CPR. We're jostling our way through — Brian's generally right. No, we weren't doing CPR. I just tried it in the last few seconds, the last 20 to 30 seconds. It's such a weird detail for somebody to lie about. But in the aggregate, it belongs on the shelf for future evaluation. Let's suppose I was lying about that — I'm not, but let's suppose I was, because I wanted to be like, I was a hero, you know, I really tried to bring Charlie back and I didn't. Would that impact who killed Charlie Kirk at all? No. Not at all. All eyewitness accounts differ on details. They agree on the central point. Like, even in the New Testament there was a resurrection.
Bobby Saucelito: Just like in the Bible. We don't know what it means, but it's mad weird, dude, because somebody is lying. If all else fails, just talk about the Bible. Turning Point USA Faith grip just keeps on going. And yeah, what we're jostling through — a couple of seconds turns into 30 seconds. 30 seconds of a very short ride is actually a long time. It's something that Brian Harpole would remember. CPR is not a subtle thing that you do. It takes a lot. You would need help actually to lay Charlie's body in the correct way and to do CPR. Like, somebody saw you giving mouth to mouth to Charlie, or they didn't. That's not a detail that just escapes your brain.
Candace Owens: I just don't understand why Frank Turek thinks that he can just keep coming up with all of these euphemisms for "lie." Thus far, he's presented to the public: it was just a discrepancy, it's an incongruity, it's an irrelevant detail, it's an irrelevant consequence. But it feels very relevant. It's definitely relevant for me. I mean, I've got Brian Harpole suing me on the basis of saying that he was just doing all this upstanding care. So it's even more relevant to me than it is to other people.
And no — as Bobby pointed out, we are not and have never suggested that you murdered Charlie. But we have revealed that the people who were around Charlie in his final days have told a lot of lies since the very beginning of this thing. And it's why they have not built up any goodwill with the public. We don't believe you guys anymore, because you can't just answer basic questions without trying to gaslight us for noticing that you're lying — telling us that we're going to go to hell, that we're demons, like how dare you notice that we are telling different versions of the same story. That pouring of faux Christianity, that grift — it's exhausting. They just don't stop it.
Which is a shame, because it's just going to be a long few years for Turning Point USA. I have more questions. I have more footage. I have more information.
New Surveillance Footage — The Tyler Robinson Figure
We should start with this piece of footage. Let's just start with a fact: Tyler Robinson is thin. We all agree Tyler Robinson is a thin person. Earlier, I showed you a photo of a person who we are told shot Charlie Kirk — it's when they reappear on campus for like the fourth time and he's got the long-sleeve black shirt on with the American flag. Let's not forget Officer Bagley testifies he knows this is the same person as the person in the maroon because they're both wearing sneakers — and that's on a college campus, where you would just never see two kids wearing Converse sneakers. So I have to tell you that on the basis of my eyes, the individual wearing the black shirt appears to me to be a bit bulkier than Tyler Robinson. Not a perfect science to rely upon your eyes, but relevant, I think.
I'm now going to show you guys the fuller footage from that moment of him up until he turns around before he descends into that staircase. For those people who believe that this was a highly coordinated event wherein multiple decoys, multiple people were communicating with one another, this piece of footage is going to further substantiate our suspicions that there was some coordination going on. We're going to watch it together. And there's no way for you, if you're just watching this on audio, to really appreciate it, so you are going to have to pivot to find the video. But I'm going to do my best to tell you what we are looking at.
Just to give everybody a reference, according to the police warrants, this is approximately at 11:53 in the morning. So we are talking 30 minutes before the sound of the explosive goes off.
I wanted the one of him walking. We can stay here, but I wanted him walking down the street. I'm showing you this because it's important for us to see that he is standing here for quite some time. They describe this motion of him as having been like, doing something on his phone — he's very clearly texting somebody on his phone. And I want to show you when he turns around too, because there are two points that I want to show you.
I'm going to let this play out because this is actually running footage and somebody at home may recognize something or someone. From that side footage, it certainly looks like this person is a lot thicker, as we've shown you before. Note he's waiting for quite some time. What he's waiting for is anybody's guess. Is he waiting for a sign, for a car to go by? Who he's texting also feels very relevant. Now he's done texting and you're going to see him go down, and that foot fully bends — that right foot. Okay, going down.
I want to show you a still first and foremost of him standing where you can see, as he's walking down into this position — I wanted the full of this of him walking up. He's fully standing here. I want to show you this because it's so obvious to me at this moment that he does not have a gun in his waist at all. But I also want to show you that bent right foot, because we have been told that there's a full gun in there. It is very difficult for me to believe that there is a full gun anywhere in these jeans, no matter which way you try to slice it. They almost should have tried to say that it was coming from the back because you can see that he's thicker from the side. But that of course doesn't make any sense because if he was carrying from the back, the gun would be pointed out — you can't put something of that size in your back pocket because it would start to protrude. So that doesn't make any sense.
While you guys are pulling up the footage of him actually walking up, I'm going to move on and just let me know in my ear when you have it.
Tarl Farnsworth in the Van
There's also one more thing that I want to show you from the same day. We're going to fast forward here to a later part of the day. This is almost 1:00 p.m. And it's Tarl Farnsworth just doing Tarl Farnsworth type things — I think it's now almost becoming a verb, to be Farnsworth. I will grant you that I'm about to make an inference that in this video I'm going to show you, Tarl is again on his laptop and he's looking around and he does the thing where he tries to be cool. I'll say allegedly, because you can't actually see the laptop, but you can imagine it's a laptop. Again, that's what my eyes are telling me if I'm going to fill in some blanks. Is he being shady? No doubt. Take a look.
He is the person sitting in the back of this van. And I'll let you know, by the way, we just enhanced the footage to make it a little bit sharper. Okay, there he is — there's our guy on his laptop in his car. He's just an incredible person. I just don't know how we're not allowed to notice that he's the shadiest character in this entire story. He turns around, goes back down, and you can just see him sort of crouching.
I would like to point out that this is around 1:00 p.m. — a little over 30 minutes after Charlie has gone down — and Tarl is very focused on this footage. I had wondered whose van that appears to be. I believe it's a Mercedes Sprinter that is sitting there. This looks like it belongs to the AV team. And for whatever reason, Tarl is very focused on this footage.
I feel like when it comes to Tarl Farnsworth especially, we're kind of at a place where we should be allowed to wonder out loud how his technology was not fully seized — if we are to believe the accounts that came from the SBI, who testified about what they were handed, that they were not handed the original SD cards but were rather given thumb drives. We should be asking a question as to how this is not tampering with evidence. This is enough to infer that some evidence may have been tampered with.
I'm going to be open about my feelings about Tarl Farnsworth because he lied to me. I can't get over this fact. They love gaslighting us and they're pretending that it doesn't matter that he lied to me and said he didn't know how to send a file, that he was worried that Google was going to hack him. And then the preliminary hearing takes place and what do we learn about Tarl Farnsworth? He immediately sent over files to the FBI and he chose to do that via Google. So why is he lying days later about that? Why is he pretending that he doesn't know how to send a file? It would have been fine if he said, "Oh, I don't want to show anybody what's happened behind Charlie's head." But given everything that we have seen, we can infer that he may have zoomed in on this footage.
I'm at the point where I was like, what are the qualifications to conduct a citizen's arrest? If I see Tarl Farnsworth, I'm going to conduct a citizen's arrest. Nobody else do it — I'm going to do it — because I find him to be the most remarkably suspicious character on September 10th in terms of the immediate actions that he took, the immediate actions that he didn't take, and then the lies that he told days later to me for absolutely no reason, when I was not suspicious of anything regarding Tarl Farnsworth and was actually just trying to clear what I thought was going to be his good name.
The Tyler Robinson Figure — Walking Footage
Okay, we do now have the footage I wanted to show you of him arriving at campus. I'm talking now back to our supposed Tyler Robinson character. I want to show you him walking up to that point. Take a look. Obviously you're seeing that yes, that's him in the corner, and he's going to come in there with what is supposed to be a limp. They're now kind of trying to make it seem as though, oh, we actually were saying it could potentially be in his waistband and not by his ankle. Well, that wouldn't make sense for him to be limping if it was all the way up here in his waistband.
You can really see in this footage — and I'm going to let you guys redo this and take it full because people at home may want to take this footage or download it themselves — you can really see it's like he's trying to remember that he's supposed to have a limp. And if he has a limp, then we would have to assume that it's in his pants. And I think that we just showed you on the basis of how he then bends that leg that there is just no way in hell that we have any sort of a gun in these pants. It's an absolute nonsense.
And then we get that stop and then he pulls out the phone and we see him texting on that phone for about a minute and a half. He looks to be texting on that phone waiting for some sort of a cue, which doesn't make any sense to me. And then he comes down and again that right leg is fully bent. You can see he kind of tries to course-correct it because he's supposed to have a gun in there and that's not the best appearance of a gun that is in there. It's someone who is forgetting which leg to bend.
I just think that there's more than enough evidence here that I would call into question in terms of who this person is. My gut tells me this is just another decoy. I don't think that's the same person as the maroon person. I don't even think that's the same person as who actually goes onto the rooftop. I think that is just a military-skilled-level individual. We will have more evidence later on that we'll be revealing about that.
I wanted to show you all that because there's just so much happening here and so much footage that we will have to reveal to you guys, and so many questions that we need to be asking about what took place at the hospital and why people were wearing scrubs when they returned — and that includes Frank Turek, because I don't necessarily buy his story on the basis of his, let's call them memory lapses, discrepancies, incongruities that he's telling from other people at Turning Point USA. And I'm not going to accept that we are demonic for noticing.
Alex Clark's Biblical Framing and the Response
But of course, to commemorate Charlie's one-year anniversary, Alex Clark decided to release a whole episode to try to use the Bible to suggest that women who are noticing lies are actually being led astray and straying from the Bible's teachings. So, more on that.
Okay, now let's sort of get into what I find to be a strange turn wherein you have a bunch of conservatives making essentially a plea to conservative women that — I don't know if they're not smart enough to use the internet responsibly — but basically, if they're being rational and using their common sense and they're coming up with questions or noticing these discrepancies in the story, they're somehow being influenced by the devil. And there is no better example of this than Alex Clark clearly planning to drop this trailer for an episode which is, of course, about me. They blame me for how everyone feels about Erika Kirk and Turning Point USA. And they continue to try this biblical grift of dropping scriptures and saying, "Oh, this is what's happening. You need to essentially blind yourself and trust the science and just believe everything that Turning Point USA says and ignore your spiritual discernment." So let's just take a look at what trailer she dropped, and then I'm going to show you how badly this went for her.
Alex Clark: This has been so hard for me in the last year just thinking about how can I ever forgive someone like Candace Owens.
Guest on Alex Clark's show: The Bible says to forgive as Christ forgave. But Christ doesn't forgive everyone. He forgives those who repent and turn and trust in him by faith. But forgiveness is something that you can't actually offer somebody if they haven't repented. 2 Timothy 3:6–7, where Paul talks about the false teachers who are creeping into households capturing weak women. Why in that passage would Paul specifically call out women as being more susceptible to false teachers, and that we should be very careful? Women are more focused on individuals, to where you might meet the need of this one individual, and that's a strength that might make us more vulnerable to deception in a certain area. There's something where, yeah, I had a weird feeling about that person too. And now you have Candace come along and say, "Well, here's why you have that feeling," and we're not going to let anybody tell us that our feelings are wrong. And again, you combine that with a culture that's abandoned truth and moved it to the inside — it's the perfect storm.
When the Bible warns Christians against seeking secret knowledge or hidden knowledge, becoming obsessed with that — it's basically waking up one day and saying, "Hey, this Christianity that I was taught, yeah, they just didn't know. The church has gotten it wrong for 2,000 years. We now have this knowledge." And you see the same thing with the Candace phenomenon. The entire worldview gets flipped. Like, everything you thought you knew — that's all false. And there's this secret knowledge. And once you know this, then you will know the true nature of reality, and that's what will enlighten you. That's what will save you. So that's what the Gnostics were really all about.
Candace Owens: I can't even believe that they've just gone so far. They are so unhinged that they're pretending that this podcast is a form of Gnosticism. No. I am not the one hiding myself behind scripture and trying to tell people that they should follow me blindly, standing up on a stage saying, "The Lord, the Lord, the Lord, the widow, the widow, the widow," and referring to yourselves. What I'm doing is — when people are going, "Hey, something feels really weird about the fact that none of these stories match" — I'm just going, "Well, here's the evidence that your suspicion is correct, that they were not telling you the truth. You are correct."
Essentially, you get the inkling like, "Hey, maybe he's cheating on me. He's being weird. He's coming in at a weird time at night. He's not answering my messages. He keeps telling me his location is off." And then I'm just like, "Well, here's the video of him kissing another woman at the bar." So what they're trying to pretend is that Candace is pretending she has secret knowledge. No, I'm just reminding you to believe your own eyes and to not allow people to utilize the Bible to tell you that trusting your own eyes and ears is wrong.
There's no secret knowledge. It's just a fact. I'm showing a fact. I'm presenting a timeline. I'm showing what people have said. I'm showing how people have lied. And they are the ones walking back their comments. They are the ones like Frank Turek who is now saying, "Oh yeah, that's right, we're telling two different stories, but here's why it doesn't matter that our stories don't match." Well, it kind of does matter. This was an assassination.
And the thing that you guys are trying to forgive me for — the reason why you're crying — is because all of you are trying to cage this. You're trying to pretend like Candace stopped this Christian revival that was going to happen. It could have been the biggest Christian revival across the nation and Candace stopped it. What you mean is it was going to be a Christian grift, which is not Christianity at all. While all of you guys were running to try to launch your careers, trying to launch your podcasts, trying to climb to the top number one by pretending to be super close to Charlie, none of you actually cared what happened on that day. None of you cared to explore what happened, to try to make sure that the feds — who are not traditionally an agency that we trust; the FBI has never, ever, ever, has there ever been a period of even five years in this country since their founding where they were not up to no good — all of you basically said, "Ignore that we're actually partnering with the feds. Ignore all the obvious holes in the story. Ignore the ridiculous things they're telling us."
You guys tried to sell to the public — talking about you literally identifying who you are in the story — a Superman neck and said, "Oh, miracles happen. Miracles happen. Don't you believe in miracles? You're a Christian. Don't you believe in miracles?" That's what happened. Charlie had a Superman neck. He ate vegetables. Oh, it was just another modern-day Christian miracle. And if you don't believe that, then you don't like Jesus. It's so despicable what they are doing and trying to blame me for doing it.
But I do want to say that the comments passed the vibe check. She ended up blocking a ton of people, including me — I didn't even comment under this video — but so many people noticed exactly what she was doing. I'm just showing you some of them, and then they got blocked for commenting in this way.
"The timing of this is atrocious. On the anniversary of Charlie Kirk's death, you don't make a tribute to him, but you post about Candace. Wow."
"Forgiving Candace for doing what Charlie taught us all to do — ask questions, search for truth of what really happened to Charlie and why. I love your stuff, girl, but I feel like you really missed it with your weird allegiance to weird Turning Point USA."
Colleen wrote: "Weird day to have shared this episode. This has nothing to do with Charlie's memory. It would have been nice to have done a memorial episode of your boss, your so-called friend, but you chose to bring up Candace and missed the mark on this one."
And Pels writes: "Well, that's such a lie. You can't forgive someone unless they repent is the furthest thing from biblical." That's correct. Nothing they have done has in fact been biblical.
And I do want to say this, Alex — I forgive you. How about that? I think everybody has a short memory and doesn't remember how this all started, where I just did a tribute video to Charlie after he died and mentioned in a sentence that we were all hoping he was going to take the next step and become a Catholic, that he was attending mass — and then you all called me a liar and you did a full episode basically trying to assert the fact that I was lying, without naming me, to Andrew Kolvet. You guys all attacked me for telling the truth, because I guess it was decided that his memory was only allowed to be evangelical and Judeo-Christian. We remember. The internet remembers how this all started.
You have never been on my radar. I don't find you to be interesting. It's very obvious to me you're a mean girl, and you have since dedicated your time to hosting all of these experts to come speak about me on your show, and we've largely ignored it because it's irrelevant to what we're trying to do — which is to figure out what happened to Charlie Kirk on that day. So I forgive you, Alex, for being increasingly irrelevant. I'm sorry that the podcast didn't launch off of Charlie's death. And we will continue to ignore you into the future because you have nothing to offer other than, just like the rest of you, hoping that you can somehow become famous off of Charlie's death.
You don't care about what happened to Charlie. You don't even care to offer up a meaningful memorial one year after he passed, because all you care about is the boots and standing in front of his grave and talking about MAGA, MAGA, MAGA and how people all need to rally around and make sure that we vote for Trump. Ridiculous. You don't have the courage to stand up to the deep state. You don't have the courage to depart from Trump when it feels like we are being lied to. So you're not a person that has any substance, and trying to wrap yourself in biblical scripture is not going to make people see you as anything other than a person who's grifting, because that's what you're doing.
The Charlie Kirk Statue Vandalism and TPUSA's Fundraising Response
Okay. I also want to get to this statue, because it's all in the same category of Turning Point USA — who they are now, suffering from being terminally themselves, what they have become. Nothing to do with who Charlie Kirk was.
We saw news break over the weekend. First and foremost, they decided to put up a statue in honor of Charlie. Okay, it's better than Alex Clark's episode. I don't particularly think it's a nice statue, but if that's what they want to do, this is how they're honoring him. They unveiled the statue at headquarters. And I want to be clear that they have, especially since the death of Charlie Kirk, extremely heavy surveillance all across Turning Point USA's campus. This is a campus. They have gates. They beefed up on security, as you would imagine — all things that make sense. People that work there may have been nervous about whether or not they were going to be killed thereafter, certainly on the day. And so the idea that this statue was then immediately vandalized is obviously going to be something that people expect they will be able to release footage of.
If their true intention is to figure out who did this act of vandalization — which, if you look here, somebody with red paint, they allege this happened on the morning of the 13th — and then they of course pushed it out via PR and now they're trying to fundraise off of it, which I'll show you in a second. But if this really happened and they wanted to catch the perpetrator, the easiest way to do that would be to simply release the footage and provide a description. Was it two people? Was it one person? We're getting actually no information from Turning Point as to who vandalized the statue. They're not seeking the public's help in trying to figure out who did this. Rather, they're all in unison essentially telling us that we should give to Turning Point Action — which is not the 501(c)(3) charitable arm, that's their 501(c)(4) — and they're basically saying, "You should sign up and head to Turning Point Action." That's what we can do to deal with this.
I want to first bring in this clip from Andrew Kolvet discussing this act of vandalism.
Andrew Kolvet: I will tell you what the enemy intended for evil, God is using for good. I want to praise so many of you out there — after this news broke, the Commit 100 program that we've been pushing on this program is surging. So do not let evil win. Use this as motivation to get involved, to be a part of the solution. We cannot let evil ghouls win the day. We cannot be intimidated. We cannot be cowed. Never surrender. So go do your part. Be a part of the solution. Be a part of something bigger than yourself. As Charlie would always say, go to tpaction.com/100. The people have surged to our Commit 100 program. And so God bless you guys. And we even have some friends of Charlie and Erika that have put up a $10,000 reward if anybody has a tip that they can send law enforcement that leads to the arrest of the vandals who did it.
Candace Owens: You can't even make it up. QR code. Here's the link. Here's the website that you can go to. This is how you fight back. How about we just get an answer on who did it? I'm not saying that this is like a Jussie Smollett situation. This could have been a dumb teenager — I guess it would be a really dumb time to do it, obviously, but people are stupid, right? Wouldn't you just want to know who did it? I feel like they never know how to just have a human emotion. It's all about fundraising, powering their machine.
Oh, this is what Tyler Bowyer, by the way, who runs TP Action, tweeted in response to this as well. Same exact link. "Commit to chase the ballots." What are we doing? "After what the left did to our headquarters today" — I'm sorry, where's your positive evidence that the left did this? Why is it always so easy for them to make that claim? And yet we can present tons of footage, tons of evidence — we can show Tarl doing a thousand shady things — and they basically say we have no right, it's not positive evidence, we have no right to infer. But they basically say we have no answers, we're blaming the left, and now we have a surge of volunteers signing up to come to Arizona. "This is our program, the Chase 100 ballots this October. We will give you a room and training to help us win." Okay.
Erika, of course, tweeted — I'm assuming someone runs her Twitter feed; I don't even think it's Mrs. Erika, if I'm being honest with you, but she's the CEO so she's got to make a comment. And she sticks to the Lord and Biblical. She said:
"Charlie once said, 'We should be building two statues for every statue that they tear down.' His instinct was always to build, not to destroy. They thought a bullet would silence my husband's voice, but it only made it louder."
That line she has run a lot of times.
"I want to say that they think spray paint can obscure his legacy, but it will only spread it further. Every attempt to tear down what Charlie built makes us root deeper and work even harder. And if you think crossing out the name of Jesus Christ will silence Christians, history has already proved you wrong. We know what it costs to stand firm for Christ. We will stand anyway. God will not be mocked. We'll put his name right back where it belongs. Clean up the mess and restore Charlie's statue and keep building. We will never give up. We will never surrender."
It's always a talking point. Nothing is sincere. I would just be like, "Whoever did this to my husband's statue — I'm very upset and we're going to find you and we're releasing this footage to the public to see if they can help us identify this car." That's it. That's all it required. We don't need a link. We don't need to know where to sign up. We don't need to chase ballots. We don't need to just keep doing stuff for Donald Trump somehow. It's just like, "We're going to elect JD Vance. Charlie's statue got vandalized. What are we going to do? We're going to register some ballots." We're not going to find out who did it. Doesn't really matter. The most important thing is that we focus on midterms, which are just around the corner, and here's a link that you can visit.
It just sort of makes me sick. Even Andrew Kolvet's tweet, coming after a Democrat — like they had anything to do with anything. He writes, "Why haven't we heard from Katie Hobbs or anyone with a D next to their name after Charlie's statue was vandalized? Is it because they're terrified it was one of their own activists behind it? We are working with law enforcement and pulling video from neighboring buildings. We want these people arrested." You guys have a very surveilled campus. Why aren't you sharing the surveillance from your campus? I don't know. This is just routine. It's all about power when it comes to Turning Point USA. And with Erika and their brand, that's what they're partnered with. There's nothing about it that feels authentic. There's nothing about it that feels like they're on the ground or connecting with people.
I also want to say that I think it was a couple of months ago, I clocked that Erika was working on some big hit piece with Vanity Fair — because, you know, Charlie would have loved to work with Vanity Fair. Her pursuit for fame is never-ending. And I tweeted that this piece was going to be dropping. And for whatever reason, Blake Neff decided to bookmark the tweet as if I was lying. I said, "They're going to put her in a spread for Vanity Fair with her children to pull at our heartstrings. Save this tweet. It will age well." And then Blake Neff replied and bookmarked the tweet. And I'm glad he did that, because I was contacted by Vanity Fair over the weekend and the article is going to be released imminently. They basically asked me if I'd like to comment but said that my comment doesn't actually matter because they fact-checked everything. So I think we should expect another digital assassination piece — à la Vanity Fair this time — as Erika continues to work with people who her husband would have never worked with, to aspire toward being seen in a positive light when I think both the left and the right firmly reject her, and with good reason.
We firmly reject Erika because everything she is doing is a 180 to what her husband stood for. He was not a person who would have run the company into the ground within one year. That's for certain. And I know they are upset about the rumors that she's stepping down, but I would say that's the first positive rumor that's come about Turning Point USA since Charlie's passing. That would be a good thing if Erika stepped down from the company, because she's effectively ruined it, and she did it in less than a year, which is kind of incredible.
Electrical Hazard Shoes and Hospital Tips
All right. There's something that I want to share just because I always tell you — if we receive a flurry of emails about something, it becomes interesting enough that I want to share it with the public. So we had shown you all of the security dressed alike. I had pointed to the fact that I didn't find it weird that they were all in the same outfits — like maybe that was just their uniform for the day, all wearing similar shoes. But I did say that what was weird was that Butch Hibbs was wearing also an identical outfit with similar shoes.
We had received a ton of emails from people that work as electricians, which I thought was strange. I'm just raising this — I'm not saying anything other than it should be raised — but they say that these are shoes that are worn when there's a potential electrical hazard in labor trades and on job sites, because they protect against electrical currents. They sent links that these are electrical hazard protection shoes. Now, I do find it weird that they're wearing the same shoes. I don't know why you would need to have light brown similar shoes. Again, sharing that with no context, but I guess the context is that they're all saying those are shoes that are common for electrical hazards, boots, and footwear. I'll leave that at that.
Of course, if you guys have any tips, you can send them to us directly at tips@candaceowens.com about any of the footage that we showed today, about anything that you do know. Maybe you have more footage. And also, we are still looking for a second person to confirm what we shared with you guys last week regarding the doctor — who I'm still not going to name at this moment — who we are told was in the room when surgery was being conducted on Charlie at Timpanogos and who recused himself from all files due to something that took place in the room.
We also received a note from a nurse at Timpanogos who told us that they were asking for weird things. Again, I'm going to say allegedly here — but one of the things that they asked for, which the nurse thought was out of the normal, was a chest saw. So this is a nurse at Timpanogos who purports to have been there, which I'm still working to verify, and that they requested a chest saw. I thought they were performing surgery on his neck. That again, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly — we are starting to explore what took place on the ER floor, because everything that we are hearing from the moment they arrived, what we have confirmed from Brian Harpole's own mouth, sounds insane. So all of this stuff that we are learning is becoming more relevant and interesting. We'll keep prodding the narrative.
Top Comments and Closing Reflections
Anyway, top comments from the last episode on Thursday. Obviously, we did our tribute episode to Charlie. Hard to get through. And I really want to just say thank you guys for all the love from all around the world.
Pam wrote: "Candace finally gave Charlie a proper and beautiful eulogy, the one that he deserved. Thank you for saying that." And I'm always very happy that I feel like I can share with you guys who he actually was outside of just a workhorse for Turning Point USA.
Fields wrote: "Every time you remember Charlie, Candace, you make him feel like a friend of ours. It's a beautiful remembering. Thank you." That makes me feel like I'm doing my job, because he was just a great person — a fantastic human outside of what they have shared with you. And yes, he loved to work, but he also loved to listen to music. He was so funny. We just really had such a great time traveling all around. Super clever, which I think the whole world obviously knows, but in other ways as well. He just made you want to be a better person. That's what it was like being around him. He made you want to be a better person, and he was extraordinarily faithful and wanting to figure out how he could be of better service to Christ and ultimately to his family and to his friends. And I do not feel that everyone in his family or people who purport to be his friends are returning that.
Comments from today's episode. Lindsay writes: "I get worried you are going to run out of never-before-seen clips, but then it occurred to me you can just pull clips of Blake and Andrew's idiotic show that no one's watching. We love you, pray for you, and above all, thank you for being unwavering on what matters." Thank you so much. Don't worry — it's beyond clips. We just have a lot of information and it's been a lot to sort through. I only have a few more weeks before this baby comes, maybe about to get dropped. And then I'm going to be on maternity leave, which is quite sad, but we have plenty of stuff to share. Some stuff we're not going to share, obviously, because I do have pending lawsuits with Brian Harpole, and I'm looking forward to seeing what he replies, what he says happened, how many more discrepancies. We have stuff that I have to keep because of my pending lawsuit. So you're not going to get everything, unfortunately.
Katherine Williams writes: "Prayed for you on Sunday. I prayed to St. Joan, your grandpa, and Charlie, that they will ask God to send you the graces that you need to always stay the course. I can only imagine the grit that it takes to keep on keeping on every day. May you receive the strength and the wisdom that Joan was granted in crazy times. I love you, girl." Thank you so much. And like I've said, the prayers got me through this year. I was weak, but now I feel strong. And I know that this is a part of my purpose — to reveal what actually took place on September 10th. And to see the way in which they have reacted, how many insane people they are sending out to attack me from every which direction. And as you see, I mostly ignore all the noise, because that's exactly what it's meant to serve as — a distraction to make me not stay focused on collecting the evidence and organizing things into a timeline and noticing, as Bobby pointed out, the larger puzzle. I want to remind you guys to do the same. Don't engage in it. It's all so stupid and they are doing it as chaos agents and it's not working.
Talks with Tiff writes: "Candace, your tribute was beautiful, raw, genuine, pure love. Charlie Kirk finally got the eulogy he deserved and I believe he found peace knowing that you had his back and would keep fighting for him." He indeed knew that I would be maybe the only person that would keep fighting for him in this regard. But one of the things that I hope he knows now is how many people who he didn't know, who stood up and fought in ways, who he didn't work beside, who weren't his work colleagues, have been fighting and putting just as much time and research into trying to figure out what happened. And I think that's really beautiful. He would have never imagined that he would bring the left and the right together. And I think that's also really beautiful.
Margaret writes: "Candace, your one-year memorial to Charlie was exactly what he would have loved. It was a love that he deserved one year ago at his public funeral. We all cried, laughed, and felt peace. A credit to you and your team. Beautiful. Christ is king." Yes. Thank you guys. My team worked really hard and we've continued to keep the team small and to just commit ourselves to telling the truth, admitting where we got things wrong, and hoping that the best thing that we can do is to dedicate our time to finding out what happened to Charlie, but also in telling the true story of who Charlie Kirk was.
Tina Maples writes: "Thank you for sharing so many of your precious memories of Charlie with us. That was such a beautiful tribute. God bless you. Keep going. We are with you all the way." Thank you so much.
Tina Curious writes: "I've been reflecting on Charlie's final days and the freedom shirt that he wore. Charlie believed freedom was worth dying for, and it really seems like he knew he was going to die. What a testament to the strength and power of trust in God. Christ is king." Yeah. And it's sad to think about his last days, because I just know he was scared and he marched on, but he didn't know who to trust. And that must have been very scary for him. And I know that's the reason why he made it clear to several people, not just in one text chain, that he wanted me back — because Charlie knew that he could trust me. He knew that no matter what, he could trust me, and that I wasn't afraid of these people. And I saw them for what they were before, long before we got to this point. And I think with him, he just was too trusting. And then when he suddenly looked up and said, "What's going on with this company?" — I just can't even imagine the fear that was coursing through him in those final nights. It really disturbs me to think about it.
Alaska Dog Lady writes: "Oh, that Alex Clark episode is infuriating. My deep Catholic faith is fully intact, sweetheart. I just don't buy the fed slop regarding Charlie's murder. I'm not seeking secret scriptures. I just know the government lies to us. They are so evil." Yeah. I can't believe they're now trying to pretend this is Gnostic — like I'm saying, "Here's the secret knowledge." I'm just saying you're a liar. That's all I'm saying. You're a liar. You're lying. You keep lying about everything and getting caught. It's not secret knowledge. Actually, we're publicizing it. We're doing it live. It's not so secret if I'm doing it live every day, showing how you're lying. I'm just confirming everyone's suspicions with facts and video surveillance.