Candace Owens investigates the Charlie Kirk assassination timeline, the tarmac hug, and Kash Patel's girlfriend's Russia theory
Candace Owens hosts a solo episode of her podcast covering ongoing investigation into the events surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Summary
Candace Owens continues her investigation into the timeline of events on September 10th, the day Charlie Kirk was shot. She addresses a correction from the previous episode regarding the YRefi plane's flight schedule, concluding that her core theory — that Andrew Kulvette was aboard Charlie Kirk's plane — remains intact and is actually supported by Frank Turek's statement that Erika Kirk arrived at the hospital around 4:00 p.m., a time incompatible with the plane Erika claimed Andrew was on. Owens also details Elizabeth McCoy's account of events at the Turning Point USA offices that day, noting multiple inconsistencies, and describes a strange, evasive phone conversation with someone connected to Hopkinson Aircraft, where Erika was allegedly seen. The episode includes an audio clip of Joe Rogan discussing the .30-06 round that supposedly struck Kirk, the absence of an exit wound, the 'Superman neck' theory, and the suspect Tyler Robinson — with Rogan and his guest agreeing the circumstances are 'objectively super sus.' The episode also covers Kash Patel's girlfriend Alexis Wilkins publishing a 13-part Twitter thread claiming that a Russia-linked foreign influence network — operating through the Catholic Church and figures including Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, General Michael Flynn, and Joe Kent — is behind allegations that she is a honeypot. Owens notes that the first person to retweet Wilkins's thread was Bibi Netanyahu's son, and that Wilkins also invoked Putin's philosopher Alexander Dugin. Finally, Owens discusses the growing number of news articles acknowledging the Catholic Church's expansion in the United States and globally, contrasting the Church's position on Zionism with that of certain Protestant denominations, and noting that critics who previously denied this growth are now acknowledging it while framing it negatively.
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
Correction on the YRefi Plane Timeline
Candace Owens: Nick Shirley got back to me and I was super grateful. We'll discuss that. It's so great when people are normal and just respond, and then you know the truth and you can share it. We also have some more issues with the infamous tarmac hug — the tarmac hug from hell — because it turns out that Frank Turek's memory makes that hug impossible according to the timeline they have presented. Unless Andrew Kulvette, as I have been claiming, was on Charlie Kirk's plane. Otherwise, we again find ourselves in the familiar predicament of somebody at Turning Point USA is lying. Pick a liar. It's a journey, ladies and gentlemen.
I will also tell you that I spoke with someone from Hopkinson Aircraft. Remember that unmarked building we discussed yesterday where Erika was allegedly seen? And I got to tell you right off the bat, the conversation was exceedingly weird. I felt uncomfortable. And also, we've got to get to Kash Patel's girlfriend. She's speaking again — never good when she's speaking — and this time she has concocted a fantastical theory which proves that the reason people think she's a honeypot is because of Vladimir Putin, Putin's philosopher, the Catholic Church, Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson, all working together in a foreign operation. I don't know what else to say, guys. Welcome back to Candace.
All right. Nick Shirley — top of show. He got back to me and like I said, I am grateful. But the issue is that I actually made a mistake yesterday. So many timelines got mixed in my mind, and for some reason I thought that the flight from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale on the YRefi plane was flying while Andrew was hosting the Charlie Kirk show, which would mean obviously that if he was live on the Charlie Kirk show he could not have been on the plane. But I was wrong. It was not flying at that time. The Charlie Kirk show was hosted in its entirety before that plane took off from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale at 12:28 Mountain time. So this plane actually left Santa Barbara just five minutes after Charlie Kirk was shot, and then it went to Scottsdale. Nick Shirley was very kind and gave me the details — it's like, oh no, he did actually do that live, and here's everything and my communications about it. And then I realized, oh my gosh, I was completely confused. I was looking at the plane while it was flying to Santa Barbara.
If my theory is that it picked up Andrew Kulvette, that was its dead leg from Provo. I can also tell you that we have since been able to confirm that that YRefi plane is in fact equipped with Wi-Fi. Again, we are calling it the YRefi plane only because Erika told me that's who was aboard the jet, because it first goes from Scottsdale to Provo. She alleges — and I don't believe her — that that was carrying Lane Shonburger, the CEO of YRefi. And then it does what I presume is a dead leg from Provo to Scottsdale. That's the one that I got mixed up on. No one was actually on that plane while the Charlie Kirk show was live. And then it goes from Santa Barbara to Scottsdale. So Andrew would of course have been able to message while he was aboard that particular jet.
Accordingly, there's been no change. But thank you to Nick Shirley for immediately getting back to me and confirming that that was an authentically live show that took place within the 9 and 10:00 a.m. Pacific block. So here was our calendar again of the ongoings on that day. You can see when Andrew is not available and when that YRefi plane is flying. You can see how I got mixed up and I was just wrong. It happens.
Frank Turek's Statement and the 4:00 p.m. Problem
Moving on, and a very interesting find from my producer. Mr. Frank Turek — I have told you this man is the only one that I feel like did not at all quiver. He has been just consistent. He acted the right way when the shots rang out. He ducked. He got a little angry afterward and said she's the devil — listen to Candace Owens — but he was tight on the alibis, the timelines. He presented information in just the right way. We have not been able to catch Frank Turek in any lies. Frank Turek hasn't made any mistakes, is what I'm saying.
Something that is interesting, though, is he did do a lot of media rounds in the days following the assassination. He said a lot on his own podcast. And I want to remind you that Frank Turek himself is a military guy. He is a former Navy officer. He also has sons in the military — I think in the Air Force and the Navy; don't quote me on that, it's one or the other. I mention that only because we all know that military men tend to be extraordinarily precise when it comes to timelines, to time in general. They are reliable when it comes to keeping track of time. It comes with their general business. It's a stereotype that holds true due to their training. It's why they even have their own time — military time. So it makes it interesting that you're about to hear Frank approximate the exact time that Erika Kirk arrived at the hospital. Take a listen to what he had to say.
Frank Turek said: "And then when Erika got there, she spent a lot of time talking to the — she probably got there, I don't know, somewhere around 4 p.m. maybe. And she spent a lot of time, as you could imagine, talking to the surgeon and talking to the hospital staff and seeing Charlie."
Uh oh. 4:00 p.m. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a problem from Houston. The plane in which Erika told me that Andrew was aboard that day did not land until about 4:40 p.m. So if indeed Erika was available to console Andrew and to meet Andrew on the runway when he landed, there is no way in hell she would have been at the hospital even before 5:00 p.m. Because even with absolutely zero traffic at all, it takes 20 minutes — if you were just flying from point A to point B — to get from the Provo airport to Timpanogos hospital.
Now, by the time you account for the landing, the taxiing, deplaning, deboarding, the tarmac breakdown, the hysterics, the crying, then moving into your cars, and then driving from the airport amidst a manhunt for a killer — I want to remind you, when they get there, there's a manhunt going on. They don't know where the killer is. He's on the loose. You've got SWAT teams, bomb dogs, local police forces, the feds crawling all over. I would say you are looking at, even if you have a police escort, 5:15 p.m. as the earliest they would have arrived at the hospital.
Which, yeah, that's a problem. Frank Turek did not get that wrong. I don't feel like Frank Turek said she got to the hospital around 4 p.m. and he really meant 5:15 p.m. That just did not happen, because he's a military man. He's not incorrect by over an hour. I don't accept that. I don't believe that. Not one bit. I reject the premise and you should too. Frank is telling the truth.
And I'm going to also add here — so is Andrew Kulvette. Andrew Kulvette did not make this story up to me on the phone. He didn't. Vibe check — I was not being lied to. Andrew told me the truth. It was too detailed. It's very difficult, outside of being a high-intellectual psychopath, to be able to just go into very precise details about how you were feeling on the plane, how it was pent up, how the emotions were, and then when you saw the first person when the doors opened — because you had no one to talk to — when you saw Erika and you quote-unquote boohoo cried. Andrew did not make that up. That was real. He and I were having a real moment when he described that he and Erika hugged on the tarmac. This hug will never go away.
Reconciling the Timeline: Andrew on Charlie's Plane
So how do we make these two points — which I believe are both true — work? I think Frank Turek is telling the truth: Erika arrived at around 4:00 p.m. at the hospital. And Andrew Kulvette told the truth: he hugged her, she was there to greet him. How do we make both of these points true given the available private planes that came in on that day?
Well, I have an idea. It's been my idea all week. Welcome to the Candace Show. We just have to assume that my memory was correct — that Erika therefore flew in earlier than Andrew aboard a plane I cannot yet confirm, but I will find out. Erika and Andrew flew aboard Charlie's plane, because that would mean Andrew landed on that plane at 3:31 p.m. Utah time. That's about just enough time for everybody to crowd around at the airport, have a little cry, and then you've got 20 minutes — police escort, I'm assuming — arriving at the hospital at around 4:00 p.m. That would mean, again, this is crucial, that Erika was on an earlier flight. The question we now face is which one.
There are too many inconsistencies in the story. The tarmac hug happened. Just accept it as a fact. Andrew was not lying to me. And every time we have been confronted with this predicament — Andrew tells a story and Erika tells a story — we are able to determine that Andrew is the one telling the truth. We've been faced with this many times throughout this investigation. The Hampton Summit — Andrew was telling the truth. In the end, they tried to cover it up with all these statements going out. The tarmac hug — Andrew in the end was telling the truth. When Andrew dropped that thing about the 306 and she pretended he went rogue — nope. I told you Erika was on the phone that day. She was directing Andrew to do those things. She allows Andrew to look like a fool and like he's a liar, but in reality it's Erika that's lying.
So if we just go with the pattern that has emerged here as we've been investigating this — Andrew is telling the truth, Andrew landed, Frank Turek is telling the truth, and they got to that hospital because Andrew was on Charlie Kirk's plane. That's what I'm putting out there.
Elizabeth McCoy's Account of September 10th
Now, the good news is that we can now fill in some more particular details about what happened on September 10th, beginning with what happened in Arizona at the TPUSA offices. And this time it is thanks to Elizabeth Krabchuk McCoy — that's her main name, Krabchuk McCoy, our Ukrainian. A lot going on with her, her family, her background. I don't like it at all.
What we can confirm is that she was certainly at Turning Point USA's offices when the shot rang out at 12:23 p.m. Mountain Standard Time. She was, as we now know — even though this was something they all kind of hid, and nobody knows why — actually the first person that was called. So much for Frank saying that Charlie trained him: if anything happens, call Erika first. Well, then we find out it was Elizabeth. So the amazing Mikey McCoy — her husband, who I should mention she was set up with; it was an arranged marriage, if Charlie is to be believed, as he said in his speech at their wedding — he rang her first and then they conferenced in Erika thereafter.
Elizabeth, after she gets that call, sprints into the office of Frank — who is the lawyer at Turning Point USA, not to be confused with Frank Turek — where she discovers Justin Streiff, who is in the office at that time, and alerts them to what has happened. Frank and Justin then run to the Turning Point Action building. Not sure why; I don't know who was there, but that's what they did. I'll say allegedly here, but that's the story.
Elizabeth then asks someone to drive her to the airport, and that registers to me as odd. Is she too upset to drive to the airport? I don't know the answer, but I do know who drove her. The person who drove her is Lauren Tonic — a very longtime employee of Turning Point USA. I would call her one of the TPUSA OGs. Back when I was there, Lauren was there, helping with everything. And she volunteered for the task of driving Elizabeth to the airport, which is approximately 30 minutes away in Scottsdale.
That was immediately weird to me, because then I thought — wait a second, but you know who's missing from this equation? Stacy Sheridan. Where is Stacy Sheridan? She's like the de facto mom to Erika. She's going to step in. She's the only person Erika needs to be around. She's going to be the one recording Charlie in the casket. She's going to be the mama-ager for everything. Where was Stacy Sheridan? Not at the office. Stacy Sheridan is allegedly home in Scottsdale.
I would like to now put out an APB for Stacy Sheridan on September 10th, because I can confirm she was not at the Turning Point USA office. And this is interesting because Stacy Sheridan lives with Erika and Charlie — the same apartment complex, not the same apartment units, but she just moved in ahead of this. She moved in after her husband passed. I think she initially was living in California and she chose to move into the apartment complex where Erika and Charlie live. They really are a family. It's weird. Mikey McCoy is there all the time. They're always all together. It's creepy.
Let me just say this — go home. Like, once you are done with work, please go home. Don't just all live in a little hippie commune together and see each other and eat. Go home. Have a life outside of work. Your job is not your family, actually. It's just a job. And if anything happens to you — if we have learned anything in this Charlie Kirk story — you'll be replaced, maybe even by your wife.
Anyway, I'm now interested: did anybody see Stacy Sheridan on September 10th? It's another person we can look out for. What about Tyler Bowyer? I do feel that Erika and Tyler flew together definitively. Was Tyler Bowyer at the office on September 10th? Did you see Tyler Bowyer on September 10th at the office? If so, what time? Do you have a text from him saying he was at the office? If so, please email us. We want to hear from you. Tips at candaceowens.com.
This is an interesting person to be missing — Mama Stacy. She didn't need her real family there. Don't forget her friends, her family, everyone she grew up with. Remember, Erika grew up in Scottsdale. Everybody's right there. Mom's a little sick, dad, aunts, uncles, everybody. Where's your family? Where are your high school friends? No — when my husband dies, I want to be with the chief fundraiser. She's my mom now. Okay, Erika, I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all. You're a very shady person.
What happens next, according to Elizabeth McCoy's alleged narrative, is that she then receives a phone call at the airport that Charlie did not make it. She alleges that for whatever reason she beats Erika to the airport, which is remarkable to me given how close Erika and Stacy live to the airport, and given the alleged appointment that she says her mother had that day — issues with her mom. I'm going to debunk that in a future episode, probably tomorrow. Where's Erika at this time? Why has nobody seen Erika or Stacy during all of this?
Elizabeth tells people that she had to break the news to Erika that Charlie was gone — that she was the one who told Erika, when Erika gets to the airport and she's inside this FBO, that Charlie was gone, and Erika collapses and screams. Now, there's a lot wrong with that story. We don't need to nitpick. It's Turning Point USA — you don't need to take anything they say as fact. It's just another Turning Point USA narrative. Right off the bat, Erika told me that the doctor called her directly and informed her that Charlie was dead. That seems much more appropriate to me. But like I said, there's no two stories that are the same at Turning Point USA.
Katherine Loccastro and the Bloodied Car
I should mention, as a point of interest, that there was a lot of evidence that Mikey McCoy's assistant — a young woman who by all accounts is very kind and very nice, her name is Katherine Loccastro — was part of the team that transported Erika to the airport on that day, and she also went out to Utah. People found that to be very weird. She's very young.
What is unknown is when or how the priest showed up to the airport, but he was also in tow, as we told you yesterday. According to Elizabeth's narrative, Mikey's assistant Katherine got sick on the plane, overwhelmed from the emotion. As soon as they landed, they raced to the hospital. Guess nobody waited for Andrew Kulvette — except they did, if Andrew is to be believed. Mikey McCoy met them all outside, and Elizabeth was thereafter the one who went in with Erika to see Charlie's body for the first time. That's weird. That is wrong and it's weird. And I'm sure there'll be some neocon to explain to you it's not — that it's just when everybody's grieving differently, sometimes you just want to grieve with people you kind of just became friends with who are a lot younger than you. It's just weird.
At some point they sent Katherine — who, like I said, sounds quite innocent and is well-liked — to grab something from the car, the car that Charlie bled out in. The bloodied car he was transported to the hospital in. And when she opened the vehicle and saw the blood, she was apparently very traumatized, according to Elizabeth's narrative.
Elizabeth then left the hospital and went to gather items for everyone to stay overnight, since they did not pack any bags. This is where the Aloe story comes in. You will note that there is curiously no mention of Andrew Kulvette in that narrative. Also, the feds — we were told by Frank Turek — were guarding the vehicle and had taped it off so nobody could get into it. So what could be so important in the vehicle that they needed to send this young Katherine to retrieve something? Charlie wasn't traveling with a bag. He had a private plane. If he had a bag, he would have left it on the plane. He wasn't planning on staying there at night. He didn't pack anything. I've traveled with him many times — he had his phone and gum, water. I'm just leaving that as an open-ended question.
The Hopkinson Aircraft Call
I have another update for you, which is interesting. I was able to connect, by a very strange set of circumstances — a giant coincidence — yesterday with someone who works at Hopkinson Aircraft. Remember, we told you this yesterday. There's this weird unmarked building, looks weird, and this is apparently where Erika was when she had this little collapse — second collapse of the day episode.
I'll say foremost they would like me to clarify that they are not a CIA front company. They do real business. They're not a CIA front company. I always find it interesting what people focus on when I say a lot of stuff. I just thought the website looked a little weird, but they probably do do real business. So just put that out of your mind.
That aside, it was weird. Very, very weird. Basically, it just so happened that after I go off air yesterday, I have a conversation with a friend in Scottsdale — a friend of mine who I trust — and the person hangs up the phone and says, "I have a dinner, I've got to run." It turns out he was going to dinner with somebody who works for Hopkinson Aircraft. I can't even figure out how that happened. The chances of it happening are slim to none. I woke up this morning, I had a text from him which was like, "Hey, you mentioned this on your show — send me a photo. You've got to connect with him. He doesn't even know Erika. He was there when she got the news that Charlie was dead, or like, saw her at the airport, whatever. But that was just kind of a coincidence. I'm like, what a weird coincidence, but he's got a lot of good details and you should call him."
So I'm calling thinking maybe there's an off chance that what we missed here was he just saw her out of the window. Maybe she got the news in a parking lot. Maybe she collapsed in two parking lots that day — one was at the airport. Good to have the confirmation that this person also told my friend — who didn't know we had this friend in common — that he saw Erika at the airport.
Got on the phone with this guy thinking he's going to be like, "Oh yeah, I saw her at the airport." Because if you don't know her, who cares, right? That's where she's supposed to be. You would just be confirming her alibi. He clammed up. Super weird. Effectively said, "I will not confirm or deny." That's to sum it all up. I'm like, "Okay, what do you mean confirm or deny? Like, did you see her? Did you not see her? What do we say?" No, I don't know. I'm like, "Okay, did you tell people that you saw her?" Blah blah. "I can neither confirm nor deny. I don't talk about things."
And it just made me feel really uncomfortable. Again, there would be nothing wrong with seeing Erika where she's supposed to be. It's not something you have to be clammed up about. You'd just say, "Yeah, that's where she's supposed to be, right? Yeah, I saw her. Didn't have a conversation, but just happened to see her." And then I'm like, "Okay, so now you're saying multiple people are lying here. Did you tell people this?" And then it was like, "I will neither confirm nor deny. Are you saying this person's a liar?" No, I'm not saying that person's a liar. "Are you saying I have this wrong?" Well, I'm not saying you have this wrong. I just can neither confirm nor deny. It's like — I am not conducting a court hearing. I was just trying to figure out what happened on that day.
So I wanted to share that this person is not in the CIA, is not running a CIA front company, it's a totally legit business — and also this person cannot confirm or deny whether they saw Erika that day at their offices.
Joe Rogan on the Charlie Kirk Assassination
So, Zionists are down real bad right now. It is just not a good time to buy stock in Zionism, and everybody is just seeing things clearly — some people for the first time. I think there has been a proliferation of this especially in the wake of Charlie's assassination, where we were just fed so much objective BS that it was kind of hard to even focus. You're just going, are they really going to try to pull this off? They're just going to tell us there's a bullet fragment they can't match to a weapon, they don't know why it didn't go through Charlie — Superman. Anyway.
They're deeply upset that Joe Rogan, as I told you, has similarly weighed in on this. And I missed this part where he specifically spoke about the Superman neck theory. Take a listen to what Joe Rogan had to say.
Joe Rogan: Kirk's thing is weird because now there's video footage from behind.
Guest: Is that right?
Joe Rogan: Yeah. The round that he was supposedly shot with was a .30-06, which is a big round. That's a round that you kill a moose with. And it doesn't even have an exit wound.
Guest: Right.
Joe Rogan: It don't make no sense. It makes zero sense.
Guest: Well, you hear about this Joe Kent.
Joe Rogan: Yeah.
Guest: They told him not to research or investigate.
Joe Rogan: Yes.
Guest: So what's up with that?
Joe Rogan: He said that they were told to stop their investigation and that they were going to handle it, and he just resigned.
Guest: And meanwhile, have they handled it? Like, we haven't seen that guy — the guy who loves furries who supposedly killed Charlie Kirk.
Joe Rogan: Tyler Robinson. Yeah.
Guest: Yeah. We haven't seen him talk. He hasn't said he did it. He hasn't said he didn't do it. There's no independent video of him talking about it.
Joe Rogan: Yeah.
Guest: And then there was footage of him like at a yogurt shop way across town, like 20 minutes later. The whole thing is like super sus.
Joe Rogan: It just is objectively super sus.
Kash Patel's Girlfriend and the Russia Theory
Candace Owens: And apparently now they're at the phase where they're angry at people for noticing. And the craziest thing that you will read today — I'm just going to see this as Kash Patel's revenge. I think when Kash Patel went into the FBI, there was kind of this ideal that he was going to right the wrongs and make sure that he took down the deep state, and then he just fumbled every plausible ball. I mean, you had Pam Bondi and him. The Epstein files — that was obviously the first thing that happened, would be the biggest thing — with Trump saying, "What Epstein files?" So talking about the Epstein files and then the Charlie Kirk assassination. We're going, wait — Charlie Kirk literally helped all of you guys get into power. Are you really letting it go down like this? We are looking at the deep state.
And I think he is now seeking his revenge on people who he feels are guilty of ruining his reputation as a professional. And he's doing it via his girlfriend. The young woman that he once referred to in a real tweet as a "country music sensation" — most embarrassing thing that's ever happened. Should have immediately had to resign. And he was flying this girl on the FBI plane to see her in Tennessee. He has also sent a police force to protect her — are we paying for that? Is this our tax dollars going to protect his country music singing young — she's definitely got a government security detail. Her name is Alexis Wilkins, in case you're not familiar with her, and people have been suspecting that she's a honeypot and that he's an unserious human being, especially given the child investigation.
Well, Alexis was deeply upset by the honeypot allegations — so much so that she began suing content creators and claiming it had harmed her professionally. Professionally, she sings the opening at Turning Point USA events. That's what she does. I don't see how that could have harmed her professionally. You should go listen to her music. She's not that talented, and that's putting it mildly. She's definitely not what I would refer to as a sensation.
So apparently, for the last few months, she has been claiming that she began building a program or a data set to determine how anyone could think that she's a honeypot. The obvious answer is because they have eyes. Anybody would say this if they saw these two together. Someone earlier said, you know, if I just literally saw them in a restaurant, I'd be like, "That man must have money." But no, it's never common sense. It's never obvious. It's got to be something way deeper.
And she has come up with the idea that Russia was behind the attacks on her. She presented this theory in a 13-part thread explaining how she realized that Russia was behind a foreign influence campaign that controls me and Tucker Carlson and Joe Kent and General Michael Flynn, and they are doing it through the Catholic Church. Even though Russia is an Eastern Orthodox society, apparently Vladimir Putin — because he really wanted to go after this country music sensation with the purpose of taking down Kash Patel and MAGA — decided to repair the schism. I'm just going to let you see her thread. I can't read the whole thing because it's dizzying. It's hard to follow. But it's 13 parts and you're going to see she starts to refer to tweets as chapters. And I'm really sad that we're at this point in America where a tweet can be considered a chapter.
She says: "A foreign-linked influence network has been running coordinated operations against the Trump administration for 22 months. I know it's real because they ran one against me. I was targeted in something that I knew was far from organic. The level of media is isolating, unwanted, and unwarranted. There was nobody to help."
She's literally dating the FBI director and has a government security force following her, and there's nobody to help. Nobody to jump in and say this is a false op. "I don't believe in problems without solutions. So I spent the last few months learning to build programs to utilize publicly available information to prove that this is way bigger than me. This is about creating chaos in the Republican Party."
Then she goes through and she kind of recaps — she says she was falsely labeled a Mossad spy — and then she says she noticed that people started retweeting it. There were 15 pairs that retweeted within 10 seconds of each other. In that tweet she's just kind of generally learning how Twitter works and she thinks she has stumbled upon something. That's how Twitter works. There are accounts, and if they agree with something, they retweet it. Jack Dorsey could have probably explained this to her in less time than the months it took her to come up with this theory.
Then she says: "The network has a trail. Catholics for Catholics lists General Michael Flynn as their senior adviser on their own website. Flynn is the anchor of a digital infrastructure that has been repeatedly activated at every major Republican fracture point."
No. She's just not going to prove that. She picked on Catholics for Catholics, a very young organization. General Michael Flynn spoke there. By the way, that's the first time I've ever spoken to General Michael Flynn that I remember. Maybe I met him at a random event a long time ago, but it would be years ago if I met him previously, and I don't think I have. So she's now putting this at the event that I spoke at a couple of weeks ago. It made her go, "Aha, it's the Catholics."
Then she gives us chapter one — and by chapter one, she means just one tweet. Chapter one. No, sweetheart. This is one tweet. This is not a chapter. Not even a first grader would call this a chapter.
Then she explains how before the Butler assassination — and then chapter two, which is just a tweet again — she says a coordinated narrative falsely identifies the FBI director's girlfriend as a Mossad honeypot. She somehow connected — I don't know how this jumps from the Catholics to there; you have to read it, it's too convoluted for me to follow.
Then she goes: the amplifications that were documented — she found out that Russia Today retweeted it. So a news publication in Russia retweeted it, and that's how she then realized that there's got to be an international conspiracy. Obviously, if Russia ever covers news that's happening in America, it's because Vladimir Putin is behind the thing that's happening in America. It makes perfect sense if you suspend rational thinking.
Then she jumps in and explains — I'm in chapter three, which looks to be about four sentences. Charlie Kirk's assassination. "Within hours, Candace publicly attributes the killing to Israel and targets Kirk's widow by name." That's just made up. That's just a lie. Chapter three is just a lie. I was not naming Erika. I said nice things about Erika about her speech. I didn't start covering Erika until Erika lied to my face in December. But that doesn't matter. This is Kash Patel's girlfriend. She can just put whatever fact she wants there. She's now correlating — oh, you know, I did go after Kash right away, so I went after her boy, and that's what she's upset about. She's woven that in somehow.
Then chapter four — she talks about Joe Kent resigning, which just happened. And Catholics for Catholics — he was at the event. That is literally only the second time I've ever even seen Joe Kent. I did not know Joe Kent at all prior to the assassination. His name became familiar to me because of the news article which we covered, which said that he was standing up to Kash Patel. But she's now woven this all together — because why would we all be at the same event?
And once again, she shows that when he resigned, Russia Today covered it. So obviously Vladimir Putin is doing this. And she then shows that the data clearly demonstrates that the same people that are interested in the Butler assassination are the same people that are interested in Joe Kent's resignation, and they are the same people that are interested in the Charlie Kirk assassination. By golly, guys, she has figured out that the MAGA voting block might be interested in all of these topics. Yes, Alexis, that is called — you have properly identified a group of people that are interested in the same political themes. If you're a Trump voter, you were interested in the assassination and figuring out who did that. If you're a Trump voter, you're going to be interested if he decides to go to war with Iran and Joe Kent resigns over that. And if you're a Trump voter, you're going to be interested in the Charlie Kirk assassination. That's not a conspiracy. That's common sense.
Anyway, she showed the data that these same accounts were interested in these same topics, and then somehow said that General Flynn is running it. So I just want to help her understand what is actually inflicting harm on MAGA. The first thing is — I think generally speaking, MAGA voters and Democrat voters care about children being raped. That seems like something they might care about. I don't think that's inorganic when people are upset that Trump says, "Are we still talking about the Epstein files?" And then basically Thomas Massie has to fight him tooth and nail alongside some others to get the Epstein files, and then we discover what's in the Epstein files. That's going to harm his base because of what he did.
The second thing that I think might be going on is that people think your boyfriend's ugly. I think they think your boyfriend's ugly. I don't know how to say it to you. And so when they see you and they see him, they think this seems like a mismatch — unless maybe he's super duper rich or super duper powerful and she's been sent as a honeypot. And I wasn't the one who put that out, so I'm not being sued by you. But I just want to help you connect that dot.
And as the news goes, when in the midst of an international war like Iran — which would have implications all across the world — somebody resigns and says that this is an immoral war, people are going to cover that in different countries. Russia might even cover that. So I do just think that some people think your boyfriend's butt ugly. I think that's all that's happening. I don't think there's a conspiracy here, but I do invite you on to the show to take us through it. Take us through the data sets that you built, the models that you built, to bring us to this crucial understanding that it could be Vladimir Putin.
She also mentioned his philosopher Alexander Dugin, and doesn't understand that people just have eyes and they don't believe what Kash says about the trial investigation, and they don't believe what she says about her relationship. There's generally a rule: if you have to sue to prove that your relationship is real, it's maybe not. I don't feel like I have to sue anybody when they say George and I are not in a relationship. People have made those allegations before. I don't care. I don't know why she seems really upset about that.
I also want to add — it didn't help that after she did this thread, the first person who retweeted her was Bibi Netanyahu's son. When they're calling you a honeypot, you just have to be like, "Yeah, not now." That didn't help.
Anyway, here's her boyfriend at a recent hockey game doing the Statue of Liberty. Maybe you think that's cool. I don't know. But I think they just think he's a tremendously unserious person. As are you. Anyway, the real person who's running the entire op is Tim Dylan — I always want to throw that in there, and I'd love to have you on the show.
The Catholic Church Under Attack
Important to note that Catholics have been under attack. This is a real headline in the Daily Wire — not that surprising, it's the Daily Wire — and it says: "The Catholic convert boom is real, but a troubling pattern is emerging." And so you can see what the troubling pattern is going to be in that article: they're not Zionists. That's why there are always attacks on Catholics. It's because being Catholic does not imply Zionism in the way that Southern Baptists might imply Zionism. And elsewhere in the article, that's what he spells out.
It's just really interesting because there's that meme — unlike many branches of Christianity, this is in the article, the Catholic Church does not demand that the faithful be committed Zionists to receive God's blessing. Many prominent members of the church have spoken out about the plight of civilians in Gaza. Yeah, great. This makes us happy. We love that. We think it's great that we are not manipulated by the idea that we're not going to get into heaven if we don't support Bibi Netanyahu.
And I do want to say that what's really funny is there's that meme where they deny, deny, deny something is happening, and then suddenly one day they're like, okay, this is happening, but let me tell you why it's a good thing or a bad thing. So this is them acknowledging, okay, it is happening, but let me tell you why it's a bad thing. And it made me laugh because last year I remember being gaslit about the growth of the Catholic Church, particularly by Allie Stuckey, who definitely has a thing about Catholics. And I just tweeted, "Oh, this is great — the Catholic Church is growing all around the world and Protestant denominations are on the decline. All should ponder why that may be." And then Allie jumped in and was like, "Respectfully, no, that's not true," and put in an article. And then she sort of — we just go back and forth and she's like, it's not true, it's not true, it's not happening. She also did a super long post in September of last year of why this is not true — the popular narrative is that Catholicism is booming, but this is not true.
And now you fast forward to today and they're all like, okay, it's true, but let me tell you why it's a bad thing. And there are so many articles now that show how much the Catholic Church is growing. US Catholic population shows growth trends southward — which is true. Here is another article from 2025: "More Americans joining Catholic Church than leaving for the first time in decades." Here is one from the London Times: "Catholics outnumber Anglicans 2-to-1 among Gen Z churchgoers." Which is amazing.
So there's a conversation happening. Is part of it being driven by people who feel disenfranchised by Zionism? Yeah. When they can see things that are obviously evil and you're telling them that it's not evil, and that they're not going to be saved unless they turn the other way — yeah, I'm sure that removes the scales from your eyes a little bit. Anyway, I think it's great for Catholics. But we are fully under attack. There's no question about it. And that thread, and having the FBI director's girlfriend do that, really shows you how there's no way she can attach it to Catholics for Catholics, but she just does because she doesn't like that Joe Kent's Catholic and I'm Catholic, or something. And Tucker, who she mentions, is Episcopalian, so he's just always catching strays.
Viewer Comments and Final Updates
All right, top comment from last episode. We have from Cece: "If I am killed, don't send the cops. Send Candace." I got you. I will be there if that happens. I will investigate.
Also Sarah writes: "They are investigating Joe Kent harder than they investigated Charlie's murder." Yeah, I am telling you — we are watching Kash's revenge. He's angry. It's so obvious. Andrew Kulvette's angry. Erika is angry.
I forgot to mention this — it came to me last night when I met up with Erika. She brought up Joe Kent and I was so confused. I need to get my notes from when we sat down, but she was asking me about — if I recall correctly, this was a part of the conversation where we were discussing the hospital that day, and Andrew was the one who had called me and said that there were attacks against me, or threats against me and Tucker Carlson. And for some reason, Erika thought that that was Joe Kent, and she kept asking about Joe Kent. And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I genuinely was telling her, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know why you're bringing up Joe Kent. And she was like, "Well, was he your source at the hospital?" And I said, no, Andrew Kulvette was. And then she said, "Oh, because there's some guy" — and she mentioned Joe Kent. So Joe Kent has been on her mind for a long time. And I don't know why that is. I don't know why she got to Joe Kent. And I didn't push too hard on that. I was like, "No, I didn't." Obviously, when all this happened, I didn't know who Joe Kent was. And I know that him and Kash are clashing or whatever it is, but she mentioned Joe Kent to me and she thought that he was my source at the hospital, and it wasn't. It was Andrew Kulvette.
Anyway, just sharing that random fact that came into my head.
More comments from today's episode. Code Seven Sheets writes: "I have so much respect for Charlie being so vocal in his stance against what would be a disastrous war. He has been completely vindicated, sadly. I hope true fans of his will be as vocal and principled. God bless that kind and thoughtful man. He was so right." I mean, seeing the clips of him saying how it would play out, how they always think it's going to be a day — it's exactly what they said. "Oh, they're done. Iran's done." And now Trump's negotiating with Iran. Iran is dropping some fire propaganda, by the way. They're dropping some pretty cool propaganda. It's definitely a lot better than the White House's, which feels like it's just boomer slop.
Natty Nicole writes: "Wait, I thought Elizabeth patched in Erika when she was on the phone with Mikey. But then Elizabeth also told Erika at the airport." Yeah, two different things — I think you're confused. The first thing is just the initial phone call that Charlie had been shot, and that took place obviously when she was at the office. Apparently she screamed and then she went and found Justin Streiff. The later phone call that she told people about was when they found out that Charlie didn't make it. And I don't believe that narrative at all, but that would have happened later.
Nicole writes: "I spent the last few months learning to build programs to build my conspiracies. Tell me you are a honeypot without telling me you're a honeypot." Shh, Nicole, you're going to get sued. She's coming for you. The FBI's coming for you, Nicole.
Heidi Gumbbert writes: "My cat died on Monday. I've already grieved longer than Erika Kirk." Genuinely, when my cat died, it took me years. I just now feel ready to have a new cat. I just didn't want to replace the cat. It just felt weird. But it's been five years, so I do want a cat. And I don't mean to trigger Alexis Wilkins, but I particularly want a Russian blue cat. So add it to the data sets. They're very pretty. I love the Russian blue cats.
Vonyi Miriam writes: "Pretty rich Wilkins is implicating General Flynn since he was exactly who brought Kash Patel into the patriot movement through the Awaken America tours with Clay Clark." Yeah, I don't know how that relationship soured. That was weird. It seems like Kash has issues with a lot of people. But clearly General Michael Flynn is on his list. And it's funny because then later on she says that the purpose of this is to get people not to sign up for the military. And I'm like, wait — General Michael Flynn is working to get people not to sign up for the military? It literally just makes no sense. Everybody hates you guys because of what you're doing. That's always the easier outcome — Occam's razor. It's because of what Trump is doing and what he's not doing. It's because of what Kash is doing and what he's not doing.
And also, like I said, I do think that people think your boyfriend's butt ugly. I think that's all that's happening. I don't think there's a conspiracy here. I didn't say it — I'm just saying that's where the honeypot rumors are coming from. It's not that deep. It's just people with eyes think that something is not organic in that relationship. And certainly suing is not helping people believe that your relationship is real, because that's not what you do if your relationship is real. Just like you don't sue someone to prove that you're a woman. It's just not a thing that you actually need to do if you actually are a woman.
Anyway, Love of Light writes: "Chapter one — I've been watching your show since the beginning and I absolutely adore you. Chapter two — it gets better and better every day. Chapter three — go, Candace." I want to buy that at Barnes & Noble. Get that published. You find a book publisher and you put it in, I will read all of those chapters and I will sign that book for you. So thank you so much, Love of Light.
Thank you guys. Again, APB Stacy Sheridan on that day. I know I have contacts that live in that same building. If you guys remember seeing Stacy Sheridan, that would be great. Still can't get an Erika sighting, but I do have a lot of issues with her Lori alibi. That is very problematic. That alibi is falling apart. I will tell you more about that tomorrow.