Candace Owens investigates Erika Kirk's background, the Tesseract school, and Dr. Jerri Frantzve
Candace Owens hosts a solo episode of her Bride of Charlie series examining the background of Erika Kirk and the network of figures connected to her upbringing.
Summary
Candace Owens continues her Bride of Charlie series, arguing that elite families have long used occult practices, psychological operations, and controlled institutions to maintain power — and that this context is essential for understanding the Erika Kirk story. She profiles Dr. Jerri Frantzve, Kent Frantzve's first wife, tracing her career from a child marriage and bookkeeping through military connections, work for DuPont, a gender research clinic at Radford University, and ultimately her involvement in developing the psychological model used at the Tesseract school that Erika attended as a child. Owens argues that Jerri Frantzve was a fraudulent researcher who produced reports using family members as co-authors, and that her professional circle included Dr. John Money, the psychologist known for abusing twin boys in gender identity experiments. Owens also raises the claim, sourced from people inside Turning Point USA, that millions of dollars went missing from Turning Point Action — a division headed by Tyler Bowyer — and that Erika Kirk is covering for this. She closes by previewing that tomorrow's episode will move into Erika's pageant years and her connections to Eastern Europe through Tyler Bowyer.
Key Takeaways
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Introduction and the Occult Background
Candace Owens: I know a lot of American grandparents woke up a little bit confused this morning, wondering why their grandchildren are suddenly referring to them as farfar and morfar. I'm proud of us. We classed up America. We're taking that from Sweden. This series is maybe dedicated to all the farfars and morfars out there.
I was actually speaking to one of Erika's exes and he told me a pretty interesting story. Aside from offering the standard "I do not recognize who this human is at all anymore — she's very different, when we dated everyone says that across the board when you ask them about relationships with Erika" — he did tell me another interesting little tidbit. One morning, he would often speak to Erika about how close he was with his grandfather, who had already passed. He's dating Erika, she's getting to know him and the things that matter to him. And he says that one morning Erika wakes up and tells him that his grandfather — who has passed and who he adored — came to her in a dream with a message. He just thought that was quite odd.
I thought that was an interesting story. It tells us a little bit about Erika because that is a psychology of sorts. It kind of reminds me of when Meghan Markle would spray Diana's perfume on herself to attract Harry. We're learning a lot more about Erika and her psychological profile, and we are going to discuss more of that in depth today. So welcome back to Bride of Charlie. We have nothing to hide.
Aleister Crowley and Elite Occult Practice
Candace Owens: On background — I don't know how far down various rabbit holes you have gone, but if you are a regular viewer of the show, you are very familiar with the name Aleister Crowley. If you are not, please in your spare time hit Wikipedia, read maybe Hollywood Babylon, Chaos. The short and thick of it is the elites practice occult sex magic. You just have to accept that that is a circumstance at the top. They've been doing that for a long time. They get together and they have these Satanic sex parties where they try to summon various demons. That sounds crazy, I know, but it's real. It's right there in your face if you just look into history a tiny bit.
Aleister Crowley, who was once termed the world's wickedest man, would host these parties all across the world. He even created his own religion around it — Thelema, black magic. There are so many stories regarding Aleister Crowley attempting to summon various demons. In France, he tried to summon Pan, I think in Paris. Many times people would end up in the hospital. But probably the one story that ranks supreme is something that happened in 1923 in Sicily with one of his acolytes.
Aleister Crowley was grooming a young Oxford student to become his magical heir. He saw this young Oxford student and said, "You've got it — come down to Sicily and let's try to do some spells together." This was a 23-year-old student. They go down to Sicily and the kid ends up dead. I'm going to bring on my producer Ashley to explain what happened when they were working on an invisibility charm.
Ashley: Basically, Aleister Crowley was convinced that he was able to make himself invisible and he was trying to bestow that power upon his little magical heir, Raoul Loveday. This was during one of his infamous ceremonies at his abbey in Sicily. During the experiment, they both got really sick. Aleister survived — he was fine — but the nurse that was helping them said that Raoul became slowly fainter and fainter until he just completely disappeared. And so Aleister buried him in a, quote, empty coffin. Like there was absolutely nothing in it. Raoul's wife, who was present for all of this, blamed Aleister Crowley for this. But just a few years later in 1929, they came out and said, "Oh no, actually he just died from inflammation of the intestines. Nothing to see here."
Why Aleister Crowley Matters to the Present
Candace Owens: I'll tell you why this is important, why Aleister Crowley is so significant to the things that are happening today. What ended up happening was Mussolini kicked him out of the country for being a Satanist. Fortunately for Aleister Crowley, this didn't actually matter because he was friends with the elites all over the world — including, and this is just a historical fact, a woman by the name of Pauline Robinson, who would eventually, after spending time with her friend Aleister Crowley, give birth eight and a half months later to Barbara Bush. Obviously you know who Barbara Bush is — the mother of George Bush. This is the source of the rumors that Barbara Bush is actually the child of Aleister Crowley.
Now why am I telling you that? Why am I starting this episode speaking about these occult rituals and the idea that the elites are practicing occult magic? It's because it's important that as we begin to connect dots throughout this series, you fully digest that Operation Paperclip was not about rescuing brilliant Jewish scientists who were being persecuted from Germany. It was about rescuing wealthy occult perverts like Sigmund Freud and his circle — referring to them as scientists, saying that they had scientific breakthroughs, so they could go on doing perverted things and go on being the elites. The same families have been in power for a very long time. Everything else is just an illusion.
I don't know how some people don't recognize that. Just look at who they keep telling us is a genius. How is it always the rich people? Do you guys really think that every offensively wealthy kid who makes his butler do his homework grows up and becomes a tech genius? That's just the story that we keep being told.
Jack Parsons — unbelievably wealthy kid who created the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the precursor to NASA's Apollo program. Oh, he was such a genius. He was trying to literally summon demons. He was Aleister Crowley's protégé. He was doing the exact same thing — throwing elite sex parties, saying, "We're going to create a moonchild. Everyone, sex, drugs."
Look, Elon Musk seems like a nice guy, but do I believe he's running seventeen trillion-dollar companies at the same time while also having 49 baby mamas? No, I don't. I don't accept that. Bill Gates — that one bothers me the most. Oh my god, shocker: he's in the Epstein files. Look at him. Look at his face. Of course he's in the Epstein files. You really think this guy is just such a genius? He went from computers to pharmaceuticals to poisoning African kids. He's just so genius. I'm troubled the most by people who ever bought that that man was smart.
Poor and middle-class people know we just can never go on to become geniuses. It doesn't work like that. Now I want everyone to just wake up from this occult spell of thinking that these people are smarter than you. They are not. Natural geniuses do exist — like Charlie Kirk. But to get to the top, you have to either play ball with the elites — meaning, hand over whatever it is that you have built to fulfill our ends, let us be in control of the message — or if you say no, you wind up dead. That's how the world works.
The military is responsible for keeping particular families in power. It's pretty much eugenics at the top and social engineering at the bottom. And we have proven over and over again as a society that we are subject to psychology. Our minds are malleable. They've trained us via marketing to poison ourselves so that we can't have more offspring. Aggressive marketing campaigns, propaganda, repeat promises of scientific breakthroughs. "The scientific breakthrough — oh my god, we had no idea it caused cancer. What do you mean she can't get pregnant? We're so shocked." This is what the military does best. Psychological operations.
And you've seen it in this entire lead-up to Erika Kirk. It is part of the reason, I believe — and I don't know if you've thought about this like I have — why did the military choose to have us all watch Charlie's execution? They could have just poisoned his drink, done their standard mess-with-the-brakes car accident. But no, they wanted us to watch it. They wanted to make sure we all watched it, had an emotional reaction, and that they could harness our emotions to get behind Erika. That was where it was supposed to go.
Erika — she's the widow. That is why they just keep saying the thing: she's the grieving widow, she's the grieving widow. Never mind everything that she's doing right now. Never mind the lack of concern she seems to have for this investigation. When I sat down with her and she's speaking about Charlie, never is emotion coming up — she's like, "Yeah, I just like to work." But then when I see the first trace of emotion, it's about her mother, who's alive. Charlie's dead.
Everyone recognized something was off about that. The way that they are defending her is crazy. I've never seen anything like it. I could do 27,000 series about Hillary Clinton and they wouldn't care at all. But Erika — my goodness. You cannot touch or speak about it because they cast a spell.
Recapping the Military Connections to Erika Kirk
Candace Owens: Let's quickly recap the military connections we've already established in the Erika Kirk story. We learned that Erika was born at the Good Samaritan Hospital on either the 20th or the 22nd of November of 1988 — it depends on who's telling the story, whether it's Erika, Lori, or Erika's dad. A hospital graciously gifted by the Marine Corps after they were kind of caught experimenting on human brains. Youth, I guess, is wasted on the young.
You should also know that morfar Carl Kenneth was himself a military man. He served in the Army Corps of Engineers. And having looked through so many people's stories, I do believe that the Army Corps of Engineers is not always engineering planes. I think sometimes they're just engineering society. Social engineering is what they're into. I'm not speaking about Carl Kenneth specifically, but that's very obviously one element of our military.
Now, Erika's father and her mother, Lori and Kent Frantzve, as we learned, were married in Marblehead, Massachusetts. We still cannot find a single shred of proof regarding that union having taken place. But we do acknowledge that it is the birthplace of Marine Corps aviation. Whether that marriage took place in the '80s, whether it took place in the '90s, or whether it took place at all, we will see if we can discover throughout this series.
Dr. Jerri Frantzve — Kent's First Wife
Candace Owens: Today I would like to discuss Kent Frantzve's first wife. This woman is very important. The woman that he married before Lori is, in my opinion, one of the more compelling characters in this story because she's very powerful, very connected, and has quite a peculiar background. And ultimately her life — despite the fact that she married Kent first — is going to plug right into Erika's life. This woman's name was Dr. Jerri Frantzve. She died two years ago. Look at Dr. Jerri Frantzve. She keeps her name. She also dies in Arizona. Everybody's in Arizona. You would have no idea that these people were exes — they seem to get along quite well. They keep doing business together.
Dr. Jerri was born Jerri Pitts in 1943. She was born into a very strict Mormon household. Fun fact: Erika's father was first married to a Mormon before he got together with Lori. Jerri's Mormon family is from Arizona — a very powerful Mormon family — but she herself was raised in Indianapolis, Indiana.
Jerri also happens to be a victim of child rape. Now she's going to tell the story in a different way. She's almost going to, when she retells the story, make it sound like a love story. It's weird to me. I don't think a person should be trying to normalize child rape. Or if they do, they probably shouldn't hold any future positions of power over children. I'll let Jerri tell it. Let's read a bit of this article from 1981 where she recounts her own history.
It tells us that at 14, she ran away from a strict Mormon upbringing in Indianapolis to get married. She says:
"I was a straight-A student and was about to get the worst mark of my life, a C in algebra. I couldn't face my parents. I loved my boyfriend. We saw an opportunity and we took it. I lied about my age. I altered my birth certificate. I then smeared it with Clairol to make it look older."
Six months later, we asked to come home and we were welcomed. She was a mother before her peers graduated high school and divorced before she was old enough to vote.
So just to recap: she gets married at 14, not mentioning the fact that she's already pregnant. She then runs away for six months, uses Clairol so she can get married at 14. Has this little shotgun wedding. She gets married to a guy named Carl Pangerl — spelled P-A-N-G-E-R-L — who is five or six years her senior. I can't really tell. Look, she's already telling us she's forging documents. So he could be five or six years her senior. And just so you know, he's going to go on to become a bishop in the Mormon church, because marrying a child is apparently not a disqualifier. In fact, she tells us her parents welcomed them back into the home.
Jerri Frantzve's Career Path
Candace Owens: They divorce and then Jerri somehow becomes a bookkeeper. She gets into accounting. It doesn't matter that she got knocked up at 14, that she's married and divorced before she turns 18 — she's still somehow able to just get a good job and begin a career. She becomes a bookkeeper. She learns clerical machines. And I would love to know who exactly it was that she was bookkeeping for, because I think it was probably somebody pretty important. Because Jerri then suddenly marries some top brass in the military.
Her second husband is a man named Kenneth Himsel. He's a captain in the Indiana National Guard. He goes on to become a general — a major general. They get hitched in 1965. Now Jerri's got connections. She gets a bachelor's degree in psychology that same year. Psychology is what she is about to become an expert in. That's going to be her career path — particularly the psychology of children.
It's now 1970. She's 27 and she becomes a social worker in Indiana. And instantly in my mind — and I get it, I'm a conspiracy theorist — I don't love anybody that was a psychologist in the '70s, especially one that's connected to the military. Especially someone connected to the military in Indiana who happens to be a victim of child rape herself. A lot of red flags here.
It's immediately suspicious because MK Ultra was in full swing. And if you did not know, Indiana was a major hub for MK Ultra action. The universities in Indiana were factually involved in experimentation. Indiana was actually the place where the government manufactured the LSD to drug people with for their experiments. You can thank Indiana for the hippies movement.
Jerri Frantzve and Quaker Oats
Candace Owens: Suddenly Jerri's big time. In 1971, she heads out to Chicago and she begins working for Quaker Oats for three years. Now, if you're like me, I was like — well, at least Quaker Oats — she says she was helping them with marketing. What kind of marketing? Okay. And if you're like me, I was literally thinking: well, at least Quaker Oats was never involved in any weird MK Ultra-type experimentation or anything, except for that one time when Quaker Oats was actually going into mental institutions and force-feeding radioactive oats to little boys.
Look at this article. A spoonful of sugar helps the radioactive oatmeal go down. Yes, Quaker Oats was conducting experiments on unsuspecting young boys. The Atomic Energy Commission teamed up with Quaker Oats to experiment on children. How long did that go on for? Did Jerri Frantzve herself play a part in any experimentation on children with Quaker Oats? Was this even related to MK Ultra? We're never going to know any of those answers — put it out of your minds — because in 1975 the military ordered the destruction of all files related to MK Ultra. So what we have today, which is already terrifying, is just a skeleton of just how far-reaching that CIA program was.
I can say confidently I've always believed that MK Ultra was tasked with creating Manchurian candidates. I believe a lot of people in politics today went through weird psychology programs. It's my personal opinion. This is my podcast. I am entitled to it.
Jerri Frantzve Marries Kent Frantzve
Candace Owens: Jerri meets and marries Kent Frantzve while she's working for Quaker Oats, and she's a few years older than him. She continues to climb the ranks as a psychologist. Gets a master's degree, a doctorate. Now she's going by Dr. Frantzve. She and Kent Frantzve move down to Paradise Valley, Arizona, before deciding to divorce.
Jerri Frantzve and DuPont
Candace Owens: Once she becomes a doctor, she has arrived. She is now going to work for the biggest and most powerful families in the world. She begins working for the DuPont family — becoming the director of employee relations for DuPont, because she's so good at psychology. She gets into organizational psychology. She is tasked effectively with finding the psychopaths that should head up the corporations run by the elite bloodlines.
Now, in case you forgot, they are also just mass-poisoning people. That's what they've done for a very long time. They have innumerable lawsuits related to poisoning the population, giving people cancer. Jerri's apparently a good fit.
In 1983, DuPont completes the largest merger in corporate history — with Conoco Oil. They're able to do this thanks to Reagan and George Bush being in office, deregulating things, making it easier for private corporations to do bigger deals. DuPont then moves those headquarters to Wilmington, Delaware.
I just loved looking into her and just seeing that she's the DuPont woman, because I like to pause and reflect on past episodes. I like to consider how terrified they must have been when I was looking into the Charlie Egyptian plains and I hit the DuPont family in Wilmington, Delaware. And then Erika's out there nervously at AmFest cracking not-funny jokes about Egyptian planes. Her jokes are going to become less and less funny as we get deeper into this series.
Jerri Frantzve's Gender Clinic and Fraud
Candace Owens: Back to Dr. Jerri. She is then somehow awarded an entire research center at Radford University in 1983 — a gender clinic of all things. She's a feminist and she's awarded a gender clinic, and they begin giving lessons to the military. My question is: on what, gender? Why do we need a research facility? Oh, I know why.
The reason is that companies might be interested in having people that will come up with research for them to justify the things that they're doing to us worldwide. You've got to have the experts — the experts that will produce the reports so that people in power can unilaterally force things across the population. Just as an example: Dr. So-and-so says that if you don't get the vaccine, it's because you're a psychopath. That sort of thing. And Dr. Jerri Frantzve becomes that sort of expert, with ties to the most powerful families in America and France.
She also, by the way, happens to be a total and complete fraud. I am confident that Jerri Frantzve is a fraud. Capital F fraud. How do I know? Look no further than this report that came out of Radford University that Jerri Frantzve produced pertaining to Native Americans and the Appalachians. I'm just going to show you the cover of this report really quickly. It lists five names: Marjorie Ferrin, George Bourne, Richard Caster, Susan Friedman, and Jerri Frantzve.
What she doesn't communicate in this report is that that's her family. Marjorie Ferrin is her mom. Richard Caster is her nephew — her sister's son. I didn't even look into the other two. Once I realized two of these people were her family and they're going to produce a report, I just went: she's a whole fraud. That's just effectively Mormon mafia. "We've done a report. I guess we can go into Native American communities. They need feminism or something. We can go right onto the reservation."
But I want you to sear that into your mind — Mormons conducting research, students conducting research. That's going to become very relevant as we examine Erika Kirk's ties to Eastern Europe, and as Jerri Frantzve gets involved in Eastern Europe.
What is going on, by the way, with all these Mormon missions? Tyler Bowyer — I'm kind of speaking to you, my friend. I know about your time in Romania. I've got the receipts now. We'll dig into that.
The Tesseract School
Candace Owens: The reason I wanted to give you the background of Jerri Frantzve is because heading into the '90s, the next thing she does in life is she gets involved with charter schools — particularly helping them to develop psychological methods with students. You know where this is going. Dr. Jerri Frantzve is going to be the person that helps develop the Tesseract Way. Tesseract schools — the school that Erika went to — which is exceedingly problematic.
It is just not an exaggeration whatsoever to suggest that the Tesseract school, when you look at the people that are involved, you can view it as almost a child psychological experiment. Let me introduce those individuals.
We've already informed you Erika will be there from 1993 to 1999. We showed you her first-grade photo, her second-grade photo. Erika, by the way — because we got some comments about this — she has spoken about how her mother chopped her hair off because she didn't know how to do her hair. I'm actually inclined to think it was because her dad was taking care of her at that time, because these are going to be the years she has a stay-at-home dad. Third-grade photo we have here with Erika in this school.
This is without question a school that is being designed by the elites. It is backed by the Bushes and the Waltons, among other elite families. They are pioneering charter schools. "Government schools are failing. Give us the tax dollars and we'll show you a better way to use them." The same families are benefiting from it. To do all that, you need your elite psychologist on board to help develop these children — how you're going to test them, how this is going to be a different model.
That is why it makes perfect sense that Dr. Jerri Frantzve — who conveniently has her entire Mormon family from Arizona, and who had a home with Kent in Paradise Valley, which is exactly where this particular school was — is going to help them draft those psychological models at the school that Erika attends.
Now, Erika might not know this woman. She may not have met her. I would definitely be shocked if she didn't know about Dr. Frantzve. Is she just doing the models? Did she sit down with the kids? I don't know. But the way they handle these students is going to be described as the Tesseract Way.
Other Problematic Figures at Tesseract
Candace Owens: I want you to know who else is involved with the school, because if you think Dr. Jerri Frantzve is problematic — I told you already that John Golle is the CEO of Tesseract. He does that announcement about it with Jeb Bush, who is supporting charter schools. I told you John Golle was working with Monsanto Roundup on their launch. So I guess him and Jerri — Jerri's with DuPont — that's a natural alliance: poisoning the population and getting away with it.
But there are some other key players. I really want you to know about this guy named Phil Bliss who joins the board of Tesseract. Phil Bliss, the board member, was involved with Stanford University in the '70s. Yes, MK Ultra. He was known widely during that time as a drug counselor — everyone's taking LSD, he got the drug counselors. He's also working with Stanford's hospital for addiction research. He then co-founds a school in Palo Alto called Mid-Peninsula High School, installs himself as the principal, and that school then has a shooting in 1996. It turns out the student who committed the shooting had been working with Philip Bliss through his depression. Fantastic candidate. He was also on the board of a French-American school on that same campus, so he has French connections too — but that's kind of implied now in my life.
The person running the school as executive director is a woman named Jill Kessler. She says she moved to Arizona for her husband's job, and he is a pediatric developmental behavioral pediatrician — he specializes in children and behavior. So she is well-suited. Above her is Susan B. Silverstein, who is the vice president of development. I have a very strong indication of who Susan B. Silverstein is, but unless I'm certain, I'm not going to show the face and tell you the background. They have done a very good job of wiping anything and everything about this particular Tesseract in Paradise Valley — which eventually shuttered in 2000 — from history. Even a book that someone wrote about the collapse of it: the book is just gone. You cannot find it anywhere.
John Walton, the son of Walmart founder Sam Walton, is a major investor and also sits on the board. My viewpoint is that it is fair to suggest that the school in and of itself was a psychological experiment, and the school completely falls apart. There are accusations of financial impropriety as well as the method they used to track the success of the students. People have said this is a complete scam — the way you're doing the studies has no control. And that would track with anything Dr. Jerri Frantzve had her hands in, because she's a whole fraud. You can't just have your mommy do an experiment.
Abuse Allegations and Dr. John Money
Candace Owens: I also want to say this, without any names: the family that I received these yearbooks from had a child — multiple children actually — at the school. The child is an adult today and has always maintained that he was sexually abused by very specific people at the top of this school. Obviously I'm not going to name those people. I was compelled to listen to and believe that individual because child abuse and psychology go hand in hand. So even if I didn't have his account, I would not have doubted it.
Dr. Jerri Frantzve herself, by the way, was friends and colleagues with Dr. John Money — the notorious psychologist who was one of the fathers of transgenderism, who it turned out notoriously abused children. As soon as Jerri Frantzve heads up the gender research center at Radford University, she brings over Dr. John Money. Here's who Dr. John Money is.
Clip narrator: John Money is one of the greatest villains in history and the father of gender ideology. He became that by abusing two twin boys, one of whom had his genitalia basically destroyed in a botched circumcision. Money believed that sexuality was fluid. He convinced the parents that he could raise that boy as a girl and it would be fine. That didn't work out — that boy was every bit a boy. When he was told what had been done to him, it destroyed him and he eventually committed suicide. Money was treated as a hero because he told the world that his experiment succeeded. It wasn't until the young man came out and told his story that people realized not only did it not succeed, but he abused those boys horribly — made them perform sex acts on each other.
Candace Owens: Just a colleague of Dr. Jerri Frantzve. I am telling you all of the psychologists — not every psychologist you know personally — but these people with power within close proximity to the elites. Any incursion into history, any incursion into what went wrong in America, begins and ends with these scientists — quote-unquote scientists — that we rescued from Germany. The fact that we still celebrate Sigmund Freud in school is your biggest clue that something is wrong and rotten at the top.
Lori Frantzve and Erika's Ambitions
Candace Owens: I want to add this: across the board, everyone I have spoken to says that Lori, Erika's mother, is exceedingly problematic. They acknowledge that Erika lies about a lot of details, and on the basis of just the divorce documents we went through, I can see that Lori might not be an honest dealer. But what people have said to me is: she is the person who has always been in Erika's ear. She's this type-A person that tells her who to go after in each and every room, who those people are, who Erika should instantly transform into, what she has to say. One of her exes was very clear. He said to me: "I was warned by another person in beauty pageant world that that girl will do anything to get to the top and her mother will do anything to help her get to the top."
Her mother Lori was herself a model at one point. So that hunger for Erika to get to the top — there is a connection, based on discussions I have had with multiple people, to her mother. To get into the Erika story, you have to know who Lori Frantzve is and who this cast of characters is around her.
Erika is without question a climber. She is also without question willing to lie to make her mother look better. To say "I grew up with a single mother" is not true. People suspect Lori is the person in her ear getting her to say that because it makes Lori look good. But let's not remove Erika from this — Erika desperately wanted to be famous. No one can deny that.
Tyler Bowyer, Missing Money, and the Doge Claim
Candace Owens: The most important relationship Erika had at Turning Point USA is Tyler Bowyer. When I sat down with Erika, one of the questions we keep asking that we can't get an answer to is: how does Erika Kirk know Tyler Bowyer? She couldn't recall that in person. We can't get an answer. That seems to be something she doesn't want to answer. But Tyler's a very significant person because he introduced her to Charlie. He set that up.
Not a good guy, Tyler Bowyer. And there was a rumor — stronger than a rumor, actually. It was somebody very much in Charlie's life who reached out to me and said that Charlie told this individual he was establishing Doge because ten million dollars was missing. I went to Justin Streiff when there was communication between us — the COO — and I specifically asked about that. He said no, no, no, that's not true.
Well, fast forward to today. They fired a lot of people, a lot of people are speaking, and somebody who was within Turning Point USA confirmed to me that money was indeed missing out of Turning Point USA. I can back that up 100%, which is why I'm saying it publicly: there were millions missing out of Turning Point USA. They were wondering where that money was going. And they specifically said the money was missing out of Turning Point Action, which is headed up by Tyler Bowyer.
The reason I'm bringing that up is because Tyler Bowyer has a relationship with Lori — and Lori was put on the board of whatever that company is that collects data and nobody really knows what it does. I remember when I was sitting with Erika, she brought this up and said, "A lot of people want to know why my mother was put on that board, but it was just because we needed a familiar name." That's what she said — Lori was put on the board because they needed a familiar name. I guess there aren't enough billionaires who donate to Turning Point USA for them to have put someone other than Lori, who we are told is very sick.
It makes me wonder. And why does Justin Streiff have a different version of events than somebody else at the company regarding whether or not money was missing? There's a lot there that I feel needs to come out. I do not believe for a single second their version of events that Charlie established Doge seven days before he died because he just wanted to feel like Elon Musk and use an expression. I don't buy that for even one second.
Erika's Casual Lying — The Pageant Story
Candace Owens: There is something casual about the way Erika lies — how she lies about her background, whether or not she's had boyfriends, the claim she didn't date for five years. That's not true. There's an element of it that to me feels like information is being downloaded — like she's remembering things and can't quite remember them.
Tomorrow we're going to get into her pageant years and how she meets Tyler Bowyer and the connections in Romania. But I want to show you this clip of her lying very casually about how she got into the pageant world. This is her discussing that back in 2020.
Interviewer: Was it after that? That's when you started pageants, or when did that come about?
Erika Kirk: So the pageant world to me is something that — it was an interesting season of life. It was nothing that I was ever groomed for. It was nothing that was ever on my radar. I just wanted to play professional basketball. That was my thing ever since I was five. I was a gym rat. And I remember getting something in the mail when I had come home from school one summer and it was like, "Hey, you should compete at Miss Arizona USA — someone nominated you." And I was like, I don't know who would nominate me for that. So I shared it with my mom, and we reviewed all the different things you have to go through, and I thought to myself: if I were to ever win this, the most important thing would be to make a difference with the title. I don't care about the photo shoots. I just want to be able to get involved with the local communities and the local organizations that are actually making a difference. So the pageant world for me was not a form of narcissism. It was more along the lines of being a steward for my state, especially as it hit its hundredth year celebration.
Candace Owens: Yeah, that's just not right. That's not true. Erika has been involved in pageants from the very beginning. Her mother is definitely the person who pushed that. I actually do believe that Erika loves basketball — there's no question she plays basketball. But this idea that she didn't want the pageant world is just not true. It's so objectively not true.
Erika without question — and anybody who's being objective and honest and looking at her history, the people she dated, the people she wanted to be in close proximity to — can guarantee you that this girl wanted to be famous, very badly wanted to be famous one way or the other.
Don't want to get ahead of ourselves. We unpacked a lot today. I just wanted to introduce you to Dr. Jerri Frantzve and the Tesseract school. Tomorrow we're going to jump into Erika's pageant years and when she hits the map.
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Candace Owens: I'm going to answer some of your comments. Okay, the top comment was: "Had to hide in the washroom at the Daily Wire to watch this with the other 238,000 live audience." Angel of Remedy writes: "I want to piss off Candace so that she will investigate my family roots because I want to know where I come from." Tanner Wolf wrote: "Everything they have been telling us is far, far from the truth." Loving the Scandinavians in the comments section. It was fantastic.
Charlie writes: "We all feel what is happening instinctively. Candace, I feel you are the one who was sent to pull down the veil and unite us all against the elite global machine. They try to divide us, but together we are strong in God and truth."
You know what? I used to play that game too — I didn't even realize it. That's how good their psychological campaigns are. They really do make you think you've figured it out if you've picked either the left or the right. No — they are benefiting on both sides of that machine. The same families are benefiting at the very top. All of it would have seemed so crazy to me even five years ago if you had said the elites are practicing occult magic. And now I'm going: why are we even in school? We're just literally sitting in a classroom so they can work a number on your children and make them think they're educated and that they should pursue working for one of these companies.
Intuition Jen writes: "It seems really weird and now a bit suspicious that there are so many Mormons involved with Turning Point USA and Erika." Thank you for continuing to go down that path. The Mormon thread will continue.
I want to say first and foremost: so many Mormons helped me in the Charlotte Crook investigation. I could not have done a lot of that early research into UVU campus if it was not Mormons running around getting information and acknowledging what's going on at this university. But in terms of Turning Point USA — Tyler Bowyer is the guy. He's the guy that introduced Charlie to everybody, including Erika. And Erika can't remember how she met him. That's not right.
More investigation needs to be done into Jerri Frantzve's Mormon family. Her mother's last name: Marjorie Ferrin. F-E-R-R-I-N. Mormon families are always big, so this could mean something or it could mean nothing. The Ferrins definitely married into the Farnsworth clan a few times. Tyler Bowyer is close with the Farnsworth clan. We've covered that. There's a lot to look at, and I can say definitively he is not a good person. And it's weird that Erika is protective of him. That should unnerve you.
Another thing that was missing is just her instinct to get rid of bad people or people that were pressuring Charlie. She's like: give them mainstage. These are my allies. My allies are Charlie's enemies. None of that is normal.
And if I find out that Turning Point Action was indeed — not allegedly, I'm feeling like it is — actually missing around ten million dollars, with two separate people saying that — one in Charlie's personal life, one in their professional life — and Erika is covering for that — wow. This is just going to get even bigger. We just need to keep the pressure and get to the bottom of what happened.
Jennifer writes: "The young boys who were abused were David and Bruce Reimer. I'm from Manitoba, a small town outside of Winnipeg. It is a very dark story." Yes, absolutely. What Dr. John Money did to those twins — there was so much evil. The media did not cover it well. I pray he is in a better place. There was no justice ever served.
And that was one of Dr. Jerri Frantzve's colleagues. Given her background and what happened — and the family was just okay with it. Come back home, it's all right, your older boyfriend knocked you up — just come back in.
This person writes: "We need a day of peace and worship. Hands Across America 2.0. We need to come together and raise the spiritual vibration of this world." I am all about fighting it with prayer and truth. They try to cast a spell every time they lie, but it doesn't land anymore. And they kind of know it doesn't land. All the money — we're saying no to the money. We're recognizing the influencer campaigns, the screaming, the theatrics. "You cannot watch this series, Candace is a demon." How dare she look into what school Erika went to. How dare she notice that she's lying.
I always want you guys to just feel encouraged. None of us were awake to this years ago. We were all at one another's throats. And now we're finally turning around and looking at the elites and going: who are you? What families are you from? Why are you behaving like this? We're the psychologists now. We're diagnosing them. And they're a bunch of psychopaths. Okay, done.
Jordan writes: "Dear Candace, you are a human being who is true to her soul. When my father died, I held him tightly in my arms to make him know that I was there for his last path, as scary as it was for him. While being skeptical, I kept my senses open and I truly felt his soul coming out of his body." Wow, that is so beautiful.
Helena Deini writes: "TPUSA is running a tight shipwreck." Joyce Tutt writes: "She is America's number one investigative truth seeker."
I just want you guys to walk away and know that the elites are practicing the occult. I want you to know that it has not stopped. Yes, they are Satanic and we have to acknowledge that first. But remain optimistic. In the end, God wins. He's already won. That's why they can't defeat truth. They don't know what to do. They're spending so much money. They can buy influencers. They can buy ad spots. They can continue to float people who would naturally have failed if we did in fact live in a free market society. Nobody's watching them, but somehow their companies keep growing — yeah, that's the elites' money. But the one thing they cannot purchase is truth. They can't. So be happy.
Hope Bean writes: "Voddie Baucham is a prominent pastor, author, and theologian. He died on September 25th, 2025, at the age of 56. His death was attributed to an emergency medical incident. I loved him. I wondered about his death. Christ is king." I did not know any of that. Thank you.
Paisley writes: "Did everyone see the alleged leaked smear campaign against Candace Owens by Turning Point USA? That isn't righteous judgment. It's bearing false witness. The ninth commandment doesn't include an agenda-driven exemption. Truth over fear."
I can tell you I did not look too much into that because I felt they were trying to distract our team from doing the work and actually creating the series. But what I will say is: I found out from employees that they were behind the attacks against me from the very beginning. And that was quite shocking because I was speaking to them in good faith, trying to understand what had happened. I was very alarmed to learn that they had so early been behind a PR campaign to dismiss me.
At Charlie's real funeral, they're on the phone with the doctor and coming up with the magic bullet theory. That's beyond weird. Don't ever forget that. That came from Erika. Superman neck came from Erika. And they're telling you you have no right to ask questions. She was running a PR campaign to help the masses believe that Charlie had some kind of Superman condition on the day he was slated to be buried. We don't even know whether or not he was ever buried. But that's wild. That is wild and it's not okay.
Tomorrow, like I said, we will begin in earnest to go through her pageant years, which I'm very excited to get into. But I felt like this background and these players are important. Dr. Frantzve is important. Now I can give you the timeline. We can go through and see what Dr. Frantzve is doing in Eastern Europe, then Tyler Bowyer is going to get into Eastern Europe, and Erika's going to get into Eastern Europe, and everybody's in Eastern Europe with the Marines and doing good things always. The Marines gave Good Samaritan Hospital out of their hearts. They just said, "I heart you Catholics. Here, have this hospital." Yeah, that's how it goes.