Candace Owens traces Erika Kirk's missing years and connects Lori Frantzve's military contracts to Romania
Candace Owens presents solo research on Erika Kirk's biographical gaps, her mother Lori Frantzve's government contracts, and Tyler Bowyer's 2010 trip to Romania.
Summary
Candace Owens continues her Bride of Charlie series, presenting a detailed timeline of Erika Kirk's early life and education, focusing on years she describes as undocumented or unverifiable. She argues that Lori Frantzve's company E3 Tech received millions in government contracts — including $2.4 million from the Army National Guard — tied to Operation Enduring Freedom and cyber operations, raising questions about whether Erika traveled with her mother during those years. Owens introduces Tyler Bowyer's documented 2010 trip to Romania, which she links chronologically to the establishment of a US military base on the Black Sea and to Jeffrey Epstein's documented emails procuring Romanian models from the same period. She also reveals that Erika's uncle Rick Urban lost his law license in 2009 due to deed fraud, failure to disclose pre-existing mortgages, and concealing assets in family LLCs during bankruptcy proceedings — but was found guilty only of professional negligence rather than criminal conduct.
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Introduction: Erika's missing years and the Eastern Europe question
Candace Owens: The players are now in place. You know who the cast of characters are. It is definitely time for us to begin pulling it all together on a neat timeline. Erika's missing years — where is she? Is she in Eastern Europe? Why was she ever in Eastern Europe? Also, is it possible that Lori, her mom, was in Afghanistan? Is Lori actually a direct descendant of Vince Lombardi? I actually think she is. We've also got Tyler Bowyer out in Romania. What exactly goes on in Romania? What goes on in Eastern Europe? What is everybody doing there? We have a lot to unpack today, so let's jump right in. Welcome back to Bride of Charlie.
Jerri Frantzve and Tesaract School
Candace Owens: We left you guys off at Tesaract — Erika's at Tesaract, formerly the Looking Glass School. I cannot get enough of that. At the time, this was a brand new concept: Tesaract charter schools, private companies coming in to run schools better. It was going to be funded with government budgets, but they were going to do it better and produce better results. Tesaract, we have learned, is backed financially by the Bush family and the Walton family, a model designed by psychologists alongside Jerri Frantzve. What could possibly go wrong? Or maybe a better question is: what could possibly go right with this cast of characters?
Now, I had alluded to the fact that Jerri conducts a lot of research — they had to give her her own research center, a gender center. By the way, under the guise of exploring issues related to feminism and gender studies, Jerry Frantzve travels. She travels abroad a lot. In particular, she travels to Eastern Europe. She did this with a team to research gender issues in 1990. According to Frantzve, the final big project of the semester at Radford would be taking a group of students to Eastern Europe to research the expectations of men and women as work life and day-to-day life change after the wall came down.
Imagine your kid goes to this school and the teacher says, "We're going to go in 1990 to Eastern Europe after the Berlin Wall fell. We're just going to jump right in there." Do you understand what happened after that? Chaos. That's what happened — chaos and carnage. Why would you take students there to research gender issues? Do we think that gender issues were ranking high in the minds of those Eastern Europeans?
For clarity, as soon as the Berlin Wall fell, the intra-Eastern European wars began. The Yugoslav Wars — bloody and brutal — began the same year, August of 1990, right when Dr. Frantzve is going out there. So I have to ask myself: what is she actually doing?
Let me enter this into the conversation. Are you guys aware of how many children go missing during times of war? During all that chaos, how many kids are trafficked during the fog of war? One of my best friends in college was Romanian. She grew up with real gypsies grabbing children off the street. She would tell me a story about how she was almost trafficked when she was a child, and it makes you wonder — where exactly are they taking these children? How could that go unnoticed?
I will state this unequivocally: I don't think Jerri Frantzve, who is a verifiable fraud, was there in Eastern Europe researching gender issues. May she rest in peace. But that is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Nancy Gerard and Tesaract's military connections
Candace Owens: I should also mention that Tesaract had a principal — a woman named Nancy Gerard, who would later become Nancy Gerard Hall. She would climb the ladder at Tesaract while Erika was a student, and she had very strong military ties. Nancy was a military brat. Her father was Colonel Paul Tracy Gerard, who was a member of the Scottish Rite. A lot of Freemasonry going on at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. He was a part of the Blue Masonic Lodge in Galesburg, Illinois. He was also the chief military law enforcement officer at the Seventh Army in Europe — Stuttgart, Germany — in the 1950s.
Nancy's brother, Paul Tracy Gerard Jr., followed in his father's footsteps. He was a major in the military in 1977, and I'm sure he continued climbing the ranks, as he was also a member of a military honor society known as Scabbard and Blade. And then there's her first husband, Steven Edward Sample, who came from a long line of military men himself. He was a second lieutenant in the Air Force when they married.
So that's Nancy. She's in charge of the curriculum and much more at Tesaract. I think it's fair to wonder whether she approached that job with military precision.
Erika Kirk's timeline: 1988 to 1999
Candace Owens: Let's jump back into our Erika Kirk timeline so we can look at all of this cleanly. Starting at 1988: we know Erika is born on either November 20th or November 22nd, depending on who's telling the story.
In 1990, Jerri Frantzve begins conducting research in Eastern Europe. I want to mention — I don't know if she is still married to Kent at this point, because we can't find marriage records between Lori and Kent, but we also could not locate divorce records between Jerri Frantzve and Kent. I'll just put that out there.
In 1991, Erika attends a private daycare at Walnut Corner in Cincinnati, Ohio, in a corporate business building owned by Child Care Visions. We have a photo taken Halloween 1991 — Erika is on the brink of her third birthday. In 1994, Erika is attending St. Ursula Villa for kindergarten, that's 1994 to 1995. In 1995, Erika is attending the Tesaract school down in Paradise Valley for the 1995 to 1996 school year. Her parents, Kent and Lori, allegedly get married that year in Marblehead, Massachusetts — although we cannot find a single shred of documentation that verifies that. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It just means we haven't come across it, and neither have any of our researchers.
In 1996 she is still at the Tesaract school. In 1998, she is also at the Tesaract school — the 1998 to 1999 school year, third grade. This is when Lori and Kent file for divorce in Cincinnati. People note that Kent is already living in Arizona and Lori is listed as living in Cincinnati, at least if their divorce documents are to be believed.
The missing years: 1999 to 2002
Candace Owens: Now we should discuss 1999, because I had indicated that Erika might have been enrolled at St. Ursula Villa back up in Ohio from 1999 to 2002. We stand corrected on that. That's not accurate. People who attended during those years at St. Ursula in Ohio emailed us. They went through their yearbooks and said that Erika is not featured in those yearbooks. So we don't have Erika from 2000 until 2002.
It's possible that she went to a different nearby school in Scottsdale. So I'm putting out an APB: if you went to school with Erika Frantzve anywhere in the United States from the years 2000 to 2002, we would like to hear from you.
What we can confirm, and this is where it gets pretty interesting, is that around this time, American men and women are being shipped out to Afghanistan. Operation Enduring Freedom begins on October 7th, 2001. And we should note that Erika's mother's company — E3 Tech — is going to be used for that operation, according to its current website. E3 Tech states on its website that they participated in Operation Enduring Freedom. Not only that, Lori is going to eventually win an award for her contributions to Operation Enduring Freedom.
Did Erika go overseas with her mother during those years? I don't even know for certain if Lori went overseas during those years. I'm just telling you that according to their own website, E3 received an award for whatever they were doing for that operation. We'll leave that open-ended because we truly do not know.
Lori Frantzve's company formations and government contracts
Candace Owens: Let's look at 1999. We don't know where Erika is for that school year, but that's the year Lori files a lot of different companies and corporations. On December 1st, 1999, with the help of Rick and Donna Urban, she forms Virtual Registration International Incorporated — again indicating she's going to be doing some work overseas. She also forms Intellment International Incorporated of Delaware on December 2nd of that year. She's getting ready to do business.
Go to the year 2000: Tesaract school goes bankrupt. Millions are apparently missing. A for-profit corporate drive to run public schools has a full-blown meltdown.
In 2001, as I mentioned, we've got 9/11 and Operation Enduring Freedom, and Lori's E3 Tech company is going to be used for that operation.
In 2003, Lori Frantzve forms another company — Intel of Arizona LLC — on January 9th.
In 2005, we can now document Erika. She is at Notre Dame Prep, playing basketball, and also in the pageant world. She wins first runner-up of the National American Miss Arizona pageant. But the most crucial part of 2005 is what Lori Frantzve is doing, because people have pointed this out: there is a relic showing that she received money from the government. She's listed in a House bill budget as receiving money from the Department of Homeland Security — IMAT Laboratories. We could not find formation documents for that, but we can perhaps assume it's related to Intel since she's forming all these Intel-related companies.
In 2006, Erika wins the National American Miss Teen Pageant and gets the chance to travel and meet Senator John Kyl. She also presents plans — for what, nobody knows — to Representative J.D. Hayworth. And she gets involved in a charity called Andrea's Closet, which works with a hospital in Winslow.
We showed you an article about this, and we received an interesting email from a very credible person whose identity I will protect. In this article, Erika says, "Winslow has so much character. We love stopping here." The writer continues that she and her family have come through Winslow many times on their way to basketball games around the state. The person who emailed me said: that is BS. They explained that in the state of Arizona, 80% of the population lives in Maricopa County, and given the way traveling teams are structured, with Winslow located three hours outside of Scottsdale, Erika would have gone there at most two times over four years of high school. So how did her mother get involved with this hospital elsewhere?
Also in this article, Erika says she loves to do charity work abroad. That would imply Erika has already been abroad at this point. Was she traveling with Lori? Did they do work with the military together? It's a fair question.
In 2007, Erika graduates from Notre Dame Prep, she is Miss American Teen, and she begins playing basketball at Regis University. Lori's A-Tech International Incorporated is cancelled for lack of a tax filing, but she'll bring it back soon.
Erika's year at Regis University and the missing school year
Candace Owens: Now we jump to 2008, because that's where we really left off. Erika's missing. She's locked away like Cinderella — reading her Bible, only seeing her pastor — while at Regis University for the 2007–2008 school year. I should mention Erika was majoring in business administration. That record is still available on the Regis player bio. It tells us she was majoring in business administration.
We can assume that while she's locked away the following year — and this is a kind assumption — she continued her studies online. But in the future she's going to edit her story and say that she majored in political science from the beginning. That's not true. What we do know for certain is that it's going to take Erika five years to graduate college.
And for some reason in 2008, Lori is going to receive a lot of money from the Army National Guard. IMAT Laboratories, associated with Lori Frantzve, receives $2.4 million from the Army National Guard. The filing references J3 and J6 — that has to do with cyber security and cyber operations. So Erika's mother, who she claims raised her as a single mom, during this crucial year where Erika is missing, receives $2.4 million in government contracts. This woman went from model to secretary to now getting all of this money for tech. It's interesting.
2009: Everyday Heroes Like You, Romania, and Epstein
Candace Owens: Let's jump into 2009 because it's a most crucial year. Things are going to start to get spicy. Remember going into this, Lori is already working with the United States military, receiving millions. In April 2009, Lori Frantzve establishes Everyday Heroes Like You. In her filing, she will claim it is a faith-based organization that is raising funds and developing programs for vulnerable children. They publish this initially on July 2nd of 2009.
Lori seems a bit busy. She's already working with the government, maybe in Afghanistan or at least creating tech being used in Afghanistan. And now she's jumping in and saying she's going to help vulnerable children. Why does that make me uncomfortable? Do I have a right to feel uncomfortable about that? With everything I know about Lori, I don't love it.
Then in October of the same year, right after she establishes this, it is announced that the Romanian government has agreed to allow America to set up a military base along the Black Sea.
Erika is going to make the claim on a future podcast entitled Freethinkers Only that shortly after they established this charity, she's going to go to China to help women who were sex trafficked. I want you to listen to Erika in her own words.
Erika Kirk: "I decided to create something called Everyday Heroes Like You, where we're able to — originally it was focused on bringing funds and awareness to various grassroots organizations that were in specific communities that would be able to have volunteers that are transparent with their funds, that are actually doing what they're saying they're doing, instead of just having 70% of the funds go to admin and only 30% towards the cause. So really just focusing on making sure there was a home for transparent organizations that people could learn about and get involved with. But from there it kind of grew into something more global. I was living in China and doing a lot of work with the victims from sex trafficking, and then began to phase that into working with the Marine Corps and the Army, and then was able to work with an orphanage in Romania."
Candace Owens: So she's clear there. Everyday Heroes comes first. She goes and she's working with sex trafficking victims in China. Then she gets this partnership with the Marines. And then she goes out and establishes the Romanian Angels project. That's what she says then. Don't hold Erika to being consistent — you'll drive yourself crazy.
We're still in 2009. What we do know is that Erika shouldn't be in Colorado anymore — even by her own standards, since she says she was there for her first two years of school. And yet she is going to compete in November for Miss Colorado 2010. You compete in the November before, so you wear the crown for the following year. She competes in 2009 for Miss Colorado and places fourth runner-up. How she qualified to compete is one of my questions.
Now, the Romanian government agreeing to allow America to establish a military base — that's also when you start to see Jeffrey Epstein beginning to procure women from Romania, per his emails that are now available. He's instantly getting his hands into Romania. There are headlines about how often he refers to Romania throughout his emails. One headline reads: "Several Romanian women named in newly released Epstein case files." I'll add here that the number one university he seems to be involved with is Arizona State University, which Erika will eventually graduate from. For now, just know that Jeffrey Epstein — we have emails going back to 2009, right when this base gets established — is suddenly interested in procuring models from Romania. Lock that into your mind, because 2010 is going to get crazy.
2010: Loyola Marymount, Luminarius, and Tyler Bowyer in Romania
Candace Owens: This is the year that Erika will claim she went to Loyola Marymount in her junior year of college — that's going to be roughly fall 2009, spring 2010. We can find her in a yearbook or graduation list, but no person has come forward yet and said they remember attending class with her. She also could have attended classes online, and given the amount of travel she keeps indicating, she probably did take a lot of classes online.
On January 6th of this year, Jerri Frantzve creates an LLC called Luminarius with her daughter — the one she had when she was 14, Deborah Himil — who is following in her mother's footsteps in psychology. It's another charter school company. And when I think about charter schools, I had to ask myself: what would be the benefit of having these charter schools? Well, if you're in charge of schools, you could create records for anybody. If you wanted to get people who were maybe undocumented into school quickly in elementary school, it would be advantageous to control a fleet of charter schools. I'm not saying that's the case with Luminarius Group, but I'm finding this theme of charter schools interesting. You can look up many articles about the corruption of charter schools in Arizona, which begins with Tesaract and continues from there.
In November of 2010, we find Erika filming November Renaissance, and they eventually put up a trailer on Kickstarter. The people she is working with — actors, directors involved in this project — are affiliated with Fort Huachuca and Sierra Vista. That is an intelligence base. How did Erika get this role? How did this happen? How is she doing this in addition to her studies? But what's particularly interesting is that this movie, which never came out, was about corporate espionage — spies going into a corporate company working on behalf of a global government. That is a little too on the nose for me. And by this time, Erika already has military connections via her mother.
We also know that in 2010, Erika forms an LLC with her then-boyfriend Tyler Sanford, called Table Four LLC. Tyler Sanford will later appear as the actor in her My Kind of Crazy music video filmed in 2013. He is also a catcher for the Los Angeles Angels. As I've said before, Erika is always dating people who have some level of fame.
Now, this is crucial: Lori suddenly reinstates A-Tech International Incorporated in 2010. And for the first time that year, the Black Sea Rotational Force 10 goes out to Romania and they establish the Mihail Kogălniceanu Air Base in Romania. Marines, sailors, and sailors of the Black Sea Rotational Force 2010 officially kicked off their three-month engagement in the Black Sea region in a ceremony at Romania's Mihail Kogălniceanu airfield on May 17th.
What's incredibly interesting is that a lot of those people are coming from Reno, Nevada. They are there, allegedly, to promote regional stability. Colonel Otto Busher is going to be accused of running a brothel and a human trafficking ring from 2010 — the very year this was established — all the way through to 2015. Yes, Erika will come into contact with Colonel Otto Busher. We'll address that more in the next episode.
Tyler Bowyer's Romania trip
Candace Owens: The more important thing I'd like to introduce right now is Tyler Bowyer. In 2010, just when this base gets established, Tyler Bowyer is going to make an appearance in Romania to work with the Romanian Parliament. He stays approximately from May through to the end of the summer — the exact same time frame that the Black Sea Rotational Force 10 is there.
Here is the proof. Somebody had messaged me very early on — it was at the bottom of my inbox — saying they knew that Tyler went to Romania and were trying to figure out what he was doing. They said: "I actually talked to him about that." And here is the conversation.
Tyler writes: "I went to Romania to do some work with a senator in the parliament there. And the senator was friends with this guy that owned a modeling agency and took me to the beach — that's going to be in Constanța — for four days, and I legit slept collectively like ten hours."
The person responds that they were at a lake during that time. Tyler says: "But yeah, these girls were crazy and I got completely Romanian sloshed." This is the Tyler I know. By the way, I'm pretty sure Tyler was married in 2010 — check the records, I think he was married to his first wife that year. And also, isn't he LDS? Doesn't that mean he's not supposed to be drinking? But who cares, it's all for appearances anyway.
Tyler continues: "They had this homemade whiskey that was like — I can't explain it — but yeah, the girls were wow, both of them." The person replies: "Homemade whiskey makes a person frisky." And Tyler responds: "That's probably the cause and effect statement of the night. And I can drink a lot, so I don't pass out or get weird or anything."
What was he doing? Who was the person in the Romanian Parliament that he was there to see? And what was the name of the modeling agency? I am dying to know.
Erika just can't remember how she knows Tyler Bowyer. She can't remember how she met him. She said to me in person: "Maybe it was through a senator. I think it could have been through a senator." I think it definitely could have been through a senator. I find that you both have a little something to do with what's going on in Romania. As soon as America gets there and establishes a base — which is going to become synonymous, if you speak to Romanians, with trafficking models in Romania — do you know Jeffrey Epstein, Tyler? Did you guys come across each other? Because he was dealing with models from Romania too.
We've got to figure out what model agency that Romanian Parliament member was working with that Tyler had a fun night out with. I think it's a good place to pause before we bring Erika to Romania — that'll be in tomorrow's episode.
Update on Uncle Rick Urban
Candace Owens: I just have to know what Tyler was doing in Romania, right? I'm dying to know. It's like the one piece of her life Erika can't remember is how she met Tyler Bowyer. It's crazy. The person that introduces your husband — I feel like you and Lori and Tyler go back way back. I feel like you guys have known each other since at least 2010. I think you knew the Farnsworths and I think you knew the Bowyers. I'd actually go back further. I think you guys maybe even knew each other since Afghanistan, but I'm going to wait until tomorrow to introduce how you guys could have known each other. Dancing around each other in Arizona, all getting involved in the same stuff, charter schools, and then you and Tyler are going to graduate in the same year. It's all so crazy.
Now, a little update for you guys on Uncle Rick. I would argue — actually, I wouldn't argue it, it's not my opinion, it was the bar's opinion — that he's a fraud. Remember I told you he lost his legal license in 2009? I wasn't sure why exactly, but there actually was a very detailed article about how he lost it, and I'd like to share that information.
Rick is the person referred to throughout this article. The first reason his legal license was removed is that he didn't pay his dues — my best guess being that he stopped paying his dues in Kentucky hoping they would stop their investigation into him, but they didn't. In 2007, they opened an investigation into him for the following reasons.
Reason number one: while employed by the Bank of Corbin to perform title searches on certain properties, Rick didn't inform the bank that other mortgages already existed on those properties. So the bank was issuing loans to multiple people for the same property. This failure to disclose resulted in the Bank of Corbin issuing loans on four properties that were already encumbered by pre-existing mortgages. This is exactly what led to the financial crisis. If you've seen The Big Short, this is what happened.
Reason number two: Bill — Rick's brother, the one who goes to prison — transferred 50% of his stock in B&G Holdings LLC to an LLC called Bill Urban Beck Children LLC, and Rick managed that LLC. This transfer went on without any consideration, while Rick was indebted to several lending institutions. After they stole money from people and those people went into bankruptcy court trying to find their money, it turned out the money was in an LLC controlled by Rick. So Rick ended up not only with Tony's money, but also with a good portion of Bill's money.
Reason number three: Rick prepared a deed transferring property to a woman named Anita Andrews, but did not record that deed with the county, and the deed wasn't actually signed by Anita Andrews. He then quickly transferred that same property to his mother and father. This is deed fraud.
Ultimately, Rick was found guilty and had his license suspended within the state of Kentucky in August of 2009. But here is the kicker: they found that his actions did not rise to the level of criminality — just professional negligence. It is amazing what wealthy criminals get away with. Could you imagine the people whose entire lives got ruined because they believed in this company, gave their money, and had their savings depleted? And we look at the characters involved, and Rick is working at Universal Studios, doing more LLCs with Lori, Lori is working with the government. There's no barrier to entry when you're with the gang.
Blake Neff's response and comments
Candace Owens: In other news, Blake Neff is obviously watching every minute of this series. And despite everything that we have presented, despite the questions that we sent them ahead of the series — which were then forwarded to a lawyer for no reason, who wrote back all snippy — there was only one thing that Blake Neff could not bear. He put his foot down and issued a full-throated statement on X. Not about the possible gang ties. Not about the Tesaract school. Not about the fraud following Lori. Not about the money disappearing everywhere they go. What he could not bear was me joking about Shabbat Shalom.
Here is what Blake actually authored on X. I'm not making this up:
"I have avoided commenting on most of what Candace Owens claims the past few months. However, her last episode contains such a blatant untruth about Charlie's daily life that I feel compelled to correct it. In this episode, Candace Owens aggressively ridicules Erika for using the phrase 'Shabbat Shalom' and suggests that Charlie's last book, Stop in the Name of God, about the value of observing the Sabbath, is a fabrication to make Charlie appear more pro-Jewish and pro-Israel than he really was. It is very revealing that Candace would fixate on this, as it immediately reveals unfamiliarity with Charlie's behavior for the entire period that I knew him. Charlie was observing his evangelical Christian version of Shabbat."
First off, Blake, I could show you text messages. I was doing turning your phone off on Saturday and telling Charlie he should do it before anybody. As soon as I met George, that became a thing. I'm aware he turned his phone off on Saturdays. I did it first.
What we're making fun of is that this is the first thing you hit on in response to this entire series. Netanyahu came out within 48 hours to remind us of how much Charlie loved Israel. We're aware of the play and it failed. But this would be the thing you break your silence on? Like everything Candace is saying — possible fraud, missing years, military connections — you just want to make clear that Charlie loved Shabbat? Enough. We will not stand for Candace to say otherwise.
I'm sorry, Blake. I'd like to apologize. Shabbat Shalom. Daddy's home. Glad we cleared that up.
Viewer comments
Candace Owens: Top comments from yesterday's episode. Angus writes: "Imagine if Candace died and a week later there was a stranger sitting in her chair telling us she never believed Brigitte was a man and she loved Israel. That's what happened to Charlie." So well said. It's just upside down. Did they even like him? Was he just a means to an end?
"Blame it on a black star" writes: "I wonder if Erika is learning new things about herself from this series." I think Erika hits reset every morning. The Erika of yesterday is not the Erika of today and will not be the same Erika as tomorrow. She's just on autopilot.
Rachel Janusz writes: "It's my birthday. Did Charlie date anyone else before Erika?" I had alluded to the fact that Charlie did have one person he was very, very into before Erika. And that's why it was hilarious when Turning Point PR tried to push out this narrative that Candace and Charlie were a thing. I was so his wing-woman. I actually became very close with that young lady because Charlie would text me going: "What should I text? What should I say?" Charlie really was like a kid brother to me. So yes, there was one person before Erika. Then you met Erika. That's the answer to that question. Happy birthday, Rachel.
Her second question: "Do you know if Erika still has her kids? I saw some posts about Charlie's parents taking them." There's no truth to that. Erika definitively still has her kids.
UT Grahamshar writes: "Thank you, Candace, for simply being you. Anyone who has attacked you for doing what Charlie would have said to do owes you an apology." I will not hold my breath for an apology. I'm not even interested in an apology. I just want to get to the truth. And we're getting closer to the truth. Getting into Romania and bringing these pieces together and establishing the characters and the narrative — those were all just necessary steps that we had to take.
Thank you to our little team who trust me, we've been working hard — researching and fact-checking and enduring a lot of emails on top of everything. And thank you to everybody out there as we get closer to being finished with this series. It was only supposed to be three episodes, but because they posted Savannah's baby, I was like: "Oh no, you're getting a whole extra week. You don't post infants on the internet." And then I added another episode because somebody called Skyler and left a message. So this is how I play. We can go a whole year.
Gracie Lou writes: "How did Erika Kirk scam a genius like Charlie? The more I hear her past interviews, the dumber she sounds." This stuff with men and women is biblical. IQ and EQ are totally different things, and on the topic of women, Charlie wasn't a genius. He just wasn't a genius on the topic of women. Don't be ridiculous. And you grow to trust people. People forget how young Charlie was. Interpersonal relationships — that's an entirely different dynamic. I have been friends with people and those friendships have fallen apart. And sometimes you get it wrong. He thought everything with Erika was organic, and I have my questions about that. He definitively did not know a lot of these things about her because I was there.
Sarah Phillips writes: "Can someone please tell me why the LLCs and charities by Erika and her mom sound exactly like the fraud that DOGE and Elon uncovered in the government? It'd be great if Elon could finish that DOGE for Charlie." I'd like to know what Charlie was concerned about seven days before we're supposed to believe he just died for no reason. That's not the story I've been told by people more intimately involved with Turning Point USA. And since nothing they say is true, I'm under no illusions when it comes to the people in charge now, Erika among them.
Danny writes: "They all act in bad faith, literally." That is correct. I've been saying for a while that you don't even know Tyler Bowyer. The first thing that registered to me as suspicious is Erika keeping people around her that I know are corrupt, that I know are liars, that I know are sexual deviants. What's actually driving that? I think the answer is prior existing relationships — military relationships. That's the story I'm telling. And I think tomorrow you will see even more how plausible it is that they all kind of knew each other before, and then surrounded Charlie like a November Renaissance. We'll leave it at that. We'll see you tomorrow.