Candace Owens continues her investigation into Erika Kirk's background, Kanye connections, and the Kouri Richins murder case
Candace Owens delivers a solo episode of her Candace podcast, continuing her investigative series she calls "Bride of Charlie."
Summary
Candace Owens continues her ongoing series examining the background and behavior of Erika Kirk, widow of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. She challenges Andrew Kulvette's claim on Dave Rubin's show that Erika "never sought the limelight," arguing that Erika's entire documented history demonstrates a consistent and deliberate effort to become famous. The episode presents a detailed timeline of Erika's years in New York City — roughly 2015 through 2018 — during which Owens argues there is no credible explanation for how Erika supported her lifestyle financially. Most significantly, Owens reveals that a source provided her with evidence that Erika, while appearing to be a new girlfriend sympathetic to Owens and Charlie Kirk during the Kanye West fallout of October 2018, was simultaneously telling people she knew individuals in Kanye's inner circle who had pressured him to send the tweet distancing himself from Blexit. Owens also draws a detailed parallel between Erika's situation and the Kouri Richins murder case in Utah, in which a widow who wrote a grief book and appeared on morning television was ultimately convicted of poisoning her husband — largely on circumstantial evidence — after friends and family refused to accept the official narrative.
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Andrew Kulvette's claim that Erika never sought the spotlight
Candace Owens: Happy Wednesday to everyone except Andrew Kulvette. Yesterday he went on the Dave Rubin show and said that Erika was not seeking the spotlight. Take a listen.
Andrew Kulvette: "Erika has always been tremendous and she never sought the limelight. She was always very happy to sort of be doing her own thing and just be supportive of Charlie."
Candace Owens: I gasped when I heard that. That is wild. At this stage, I could probably write a biography on Erika's life, and my conclusion thereafter would be that I have never seen someone throughout their life demonstrate such a consistent interest and make such a concerted effort to become famous. I say that truly.
We now have to get back into their story — Charlie and Erika's story. You should know more about how they met. Plus, later on the same topic, Matt Walsh tweeted something. He's a staunch defender of Erika, which made what he tweeted last night ironic to say the least. Welcome back to Bride of Charlie. We have nothing to hide.
The Catholic thread — Bishop Thomas J. O'Brien and Notre Dame Prep
Candace Owens: The first thing I want to say at the top here is that this Erika Kirk story would not be complete if it did not also feature a few questionable Catholics. I'm sorry, Catholics, but it does — we cannot deny the facts here. And it tracks. We've been going through this journey. We've got filthy evangelical pastors. We've got shady Mormons. We've got terrible Jews. This is like a game of Pokémon at this point. We have to catch them all.
We had explained on a previous episode that wherever Erika and Lori go, accusations of financial fraud tend to follow — throwing it back to the Urban Beck brothers, Uncle Rick, that brand new glossy Tesseract school, ultimately a charter scam in which money inexplicably vanished, just evaporated into thin air, where the school went bankrupt. That's where Erika went for elementary school. So it's like literally Ohio, and then she goes to Arizona, and it's got these financial things kind of just surrounding them.
We then happened upon some interesting information. We learned that Tesseract afterward became Notre Dame Prep. And I was asking, how did the Catholics get involved with that? Tesseract school was definitely a very Jewish school in general. Well, it makes sense in this story because Erika can be at various times Catholic, evangelical, or Jewish — it just depends on the audience she's trying to get a check from. But there is a current of Catholicism floating in this story. Obviously, as I told you, the church that Charlie was attending, the priest that she takes with her everywhere — despite denying that she's Catholic or whatever — she took him with her to Utah when Charlie died.
The story goes that after Tesseract filed for bankruptcy in 2001, they put their old campus up for sale and it was purchased by the Diocese of Phoenix, which then turned it into Notre Dame Prep, where Erika then enrolled for high school. This decision and process was overseen by Bishop Thomas J. O'Brien. He was very significant in building up the Catholic community in Phoenix — under his leadership, which began in 1982, 15 additional parishes were founded, including the one that Erika is very close to today. But you know, not close enough to publicly acknowledge in front of the evangelical donors.
He was the bishop until 2003, when he received the distinct honor of becoming the very first Catholic bishop in America ever to be charged with a felony. He was arrested for a hit-and-run in 2003 that killed Jim Lee Reed. By hit-and-run, I mean that he did not bother stopping or calling the police. He went home, had some dinner, had a sleep, went to his sister's house the following day. The police were able to capture him because of the very obvious damage done to his car, which included a cracked windshield. When he was discovered, he said, "I didn't report the accident because I thought I hit a cat or a dog." For clarity, the person he hit was 240 pounds and over six feet. So — big cat or big dog.
Remarkably, Thomas O'Brien only got four years of probation for this. The Vatican, of course, accepted his resignation. He staffed the school that Erika then attends.
And that is not going to spell the end of his legal trouble. In 2002, prosecutors in Maricopa County initiated a grand jury investigation into charges of sexual abuse by Catholic priests staffed by O'Brien. He became a target of the investigation for allegedly covering up allegations against priests he had placed. It's a bit reminiscent of when we talked about Calvary Chapel and how they were intentionally going around finding pastors with connections to sex abuse, rehabilitating them, and moving them around. Well, O'Brien didn't want to go to prison. And in exchange for immunity, he came clean. He admitted that several times during his 22-year tenure he had placed children in harm's way by transferring priests who had been accused of abuse to his parishes, and that he did not inform the parishioners or his new superiors.
So again, I will ask the question: what goes on in Maricopa County? It's obviously not anything good. Why does it seem like there is just so much corruption? It is, I believe factually, the most corrupt county in America in terms of politics. We get closer to who is driving that corruption throughout this series. Anyway, I just wanted to pop that in because it's remarkable that the most basic fact checks, once you're in Arizona, you land upon these things non-stop.
Erika's timeline: 2015–2017 — the years with no apparent income
Candace Owens: Now we're going to jump right back into our Erika timeline, because I have something to share regarding 2018.
In 2015, Erika is 27 years old. It is entirely unclear what she is doing for work. And it's important to stress — she's 27. This is not 18 or 19, just got out of the house, don't know what I'm doing. She's still dating JT Massie during this time. We also have that on July 11th, Lori Frantzve, Tyler Bowyer, and Erika are going to be behind Donald Trump for his presidential campaign rally. You'll recall this is where the story gets fuzzy. Erika thinks she met Tyler at that rally, but Tyler tells the story that she called him up before the rally and offered to help. She can't remember how she met him — kind of thinking it was years earlier, when her mother was doing deals with the Farnsworth family for EMPs and getting money from the government for fear-mongering about EMP attacks.
In mid-August of that year, Erika goes to Canada. She travels to Montreal through to Estrel, Quebec — again, not knowing how she is affording this lifestyle. She is traveling with Nicole Rothstein. In November, her mother establishes GT Tech Industries LLC. You're going to say, what does it do? Well, it's Lori — she's doing this whole EMP thing, getting money, saying this is the threat, working with people she knows, getting your tax dollars for doing that. That's what she's doing with GT Tech.
Erika then soft-launches another charity called For the Cause in Phoenix. Yes, the cause is always going to be children. It has something to do with children at a hospital, but it looks like it never really gets out of the gate. The website still says "coming fall of 2015." That's all we can find in terms of what Erika was doing for work that year.
We jump into 2016. Erika is 28 years old and we still have no idea what she is doing for work. And now she's living in New York City, one of the most expensive cities in the world. The question you should ask yourself is how is she making money to afford this lifestyle? I'll remind you that these are the years that the people at Next Model Management — she was the point person for the so-called model apartments where they put models coming from Eastern Europe, and she was attached in particular to a building on the Upper East Side. So that would track if she was getting paid that way. Otherwise, I can't figure out what she's doing.
On May 9th, she shares that she's location scouting in Williamsburg, Brooklyn — for what, it is unclear. In the past she's made statements that she was a casting director. Casting directors are not the same as location scouts. This is the Jane of All Trades thing that she consistently sells.
Later on, she's going to claim that this is the year she launched Bible in 365. On a future post she says, "In 2016, I started Bible in 365 in my New York City apartment." That is objectively untrue according to corporate filings. It just did not happen, but she alleges it in a future post.
This is also the year her mother receives an honorary degree conferred upon her at a university I've never heard of — AATC University. To be clear, AATC stands for Advancing Achievers Technology and Cyber Security University. They just get things handed out.
In August, Lori will go to Utah and attend an expo for GT Tech Industries — looking for people to buy into what looks to me to be a scam. Protect yourself from an EMP attack. It's this constant fear-mongering.
And then in August we find Erika somewhere in the Mediterranean. I could not figure out where she was — my guess would be Croatia or Italy based on the water. Again, unclear how she's affording this lifestyle, traveling the world while living in New York City with no apparent job.
Lori then releases an intent to sell GT Tech Industries to Sax and Capital Group. A little fun fact: Sax and Capital Group is actually Lori — she is an 86% owner of Sax and Capital Group. They release this onto PR Newswire, and then it turns out that years later Sax and Capital Group, with Lori as a minor partner, files for an IPO and says, "Yeah, no, we actually never did that deal." Just a little bit more Lori trickery.
In 2017, Erika is going to get busy — but once again we're not really going to understand what she's actually doing. She's doing everything and nothing at the same time. Always reminding you: this is a 29-year-old woman, about to be 30. You can't just not do something in life unless you're unspeakably wealthy, and that's not the circumstance for Erika Kirk.
On January 12th, she establishes the Elm Group LLC. No idea what this company does. Nothing makes sense in terms of what this company does. I could not figure it out. If you know, please let me know. Maybe you've worked with the Elm Group. I'm going to go with Erika's kind of doing what her mom does and just creating a lot of LLCs — there's no description offered on those documents.
On February 1st, she appears in a documentary called Black Start by Patrick Patria. The documentary also features CIA director James Woolsey. This documentary is about EMP attacks — how the government needs to prepare for them. So it's a bit more of her mother's propaganda, so to speak, and Erika is going to present her mother's business model.
Erika Kirk: "We have five major threats that make our grid extremely vulnerable that we've presented to congressional officials. One being cyber, two being hackers, three being physical threats, fourth one is solar EMP, and the fifth one is man-made EMP. So the concern that we have is that we put out this critical information and when we go over this risk analysis, they hear what we're saying, but they don't want to take action."
Candace Owens: When she says "we," I don't know who she's speaking about. I don't know why she has the background to be featured in this documentary. There were a lot of people online trying to minimize this and say, "Oh, well, it's not the CIA — it's just the director who's featured in the documentary." You can't just ring up the CIA and ask them to be in your documentary. That's not a thing. Think through the common sense there. If I want to do a documentary on EMPs and I'm just a random girl who has basically been in pageant world — that's pretty much all she's accomplished at this point in her life — how am I getting the CIA director involved in that? Like, there's obviously a connection, and it just annoys me when people try to treat us like we're so stupid that there's nothing to see here. The CIA director just normally does that. You just call a 1-800 number and he'll be in your random documentary too.
On July 24th, her mother then opens that mysterious LLC, Desert Spirit Tech LLC. That is the one that should not be ignored. Opening up a tech company in the middle of the Tohono O'odham reservation, an Indian reservation — and I hope I'm saying that correctly. Nothing good happens on Indian reservations that Americans get involved in. Okay, it's basically you can do whatever you want, no rules apply. People are trafficked. There's drug trafficking. In fact, when she gets involved, I think they had just shut down the San Miguel gate on the Tohono O'odham reservation, which passed through to Mexico, and there's nothing the feds can do. What is Lori doing with a Native American reservation? Is she involved with casinos? Is Desert Spirit Tech casino stuff? I don't know. The fact that she has all of these LLCs and we don't know what she does is exceedingly problematic, especially given her relationships with the government. I don't like this area. I don't like what goes on in Arizona down by the border and the people that Lori Frantzve involves herself with.
This year, Erika is dating Kitt Phillips. I told you she has a boyfriend every single year. They're painting together — cute, very cute. And per her LinkedIn, she begins attending Liberty University for her master's degree. She's going to say she attends for two years. Obviously it's online attendance. And she is randomly pictured at a celebrity dentist this year as well, Dr. V., who says she's gorgeous and that she got cast in the Ocean's 8 movie. Erika was not in the Ocean's 8 movie as far as I could see — she was not in the credits — but that is what the post says.
Again, we reflect on that year and we have no idea what the heck Erika Kirk does for a living. Who's paying her? The only clue we have is that she's involved with Next Model Management, managing perhaps the apartments for Eastern European models. And I'm not entirely sure what qualifies her to do that even.
2018 — The Kanye connection and the Blexit betrayal
Candace Owens: 2018 we have got to talk about because I actually had to calm down after learning this.
2018 begins with Erika ringing in the new year with Kitt Phillips, her boyfriend, and Lori. On April 7th, Charlie predicts his own death and says he knows it is going to be associated with Turning Point USA. I find that point to be very interesting. He says, "If I tell you the true prophecy, I know in my gut it's really sad. I hope it's wrong." He goes on to say, "I'm not sure I will live to see the end of this revolution. I believe you were the peace that God meant for me to meet that will finish the fight. Since the beginning of TPUSA, I knew in my gut that I might get wiped out at any time. I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time — like all the time." And then he says, "I'm not really afraid of it, but I'm just telling you what I know to be true."
There's something sobering to me when I look at that on the timeline and realize that he messages that to me on April 7th, 2018, and then so much happens. I told you that there was something about Kanye's tweet that sort of ripped a hole in reality, and I felt like agents were suddenly sent to us. That was me just explaining how I felt things changed. A lot of fake people started surrounding us and it felt like they were trying to artificially pull us apart.
It's then just a couple of weeks after Charlie's message that Kanye tweets, "I love the way Candace Owens thinks." Like I said, you had to be there — we were just rapping along and I kept telling him that Kanye was going to come over to conservatism and I thought he was conservative. And then we learn from Erika that she and her mother go to Israel on pilgrimage — in Jerusalem — and they see Charlie at the airport. Her mother says, "Well, you should go up to him and say something." And Erika ultimately decides not to. And I always thought that story was interesting, because I was with Charlie at the airport and I don't remember him mentioning that he saw Erika — just by himself at the airport.
On August 10th, Erika, having just seen him in May, is going to see him again at Turning Point USA's office opening. She gets invited by Tyler, who doesn't explain how he knows her but introduces her very quickly to Charlie. I am there. I am there for the grand opening. I think I remember quickly meeting her at some point. We don't really know why she's there — remember, she's living in New York. And this is around the same time that Erika is communicating to various people that she's doing real estate deals with her family.
Then comes September, where it is again arranged by Tyler Bowyer for Erika to meet Charlie, this time one-on-one for a job. In retrospect, this really bothers me, because that is not how job interviews happened at Turning Point USA. We were not taken to meet the CEO of the company at a restaurant in New York. That's just not how job interviews work at all. Why would you do that? And Erika says everything perfect and amazing and exactly the things that Charlie wants to hear. And there begins their relationship — you could say right in September when they meet at that restaurant.
Then comes October 24th, and Erika somehow becomes a licensed real estate agent in New York and is immediately employed by Corcoran Real Estate Group. And people have reached out to us — it looks like Erika did a total of three possible rentals under somebody else's name. She wasn't even the main realtor. I don't understand how she's working for Corcoran Real Estate and doing real estate deals.
I want to point to October 30th. I told you that suddenly people were trying to pull me and Kanye and Charlie apart. You just felt it. And out of nowhere, Kanye, who did actually help me design the Blexit logo in Chicago, was getting an insane amount of pressure and was told he could not get involved in politics. He was putting on the MAGA hat, things were going crazy, I think Kim was threatening divorce at some point, and Kanye cracks and tweets a series of tweets. He writes: "I introduced Candace to the person who made the logo and they didn't want their name on it, so she used mine. I never wanted any association with Blexit. I have nothing to do with it." He then follows that up by saying: "My eyes are now wide open and now I realize that I have been used to spread messages that I don't believe in. I am distancing myself from politics and completely focusing on being creative."
Let me tell you, this was one of the hardest things for me to go through. I love Yay, love him now, but it was untrue, and it allowed people to run with every single "Candace lied" article. I actually have a photo of Ye Kadany in the Trump Hotel in Chicago. I didn't know what was happening and called a friend, and they were like, "You don't know what he's going through and what sort of pressure he's going through." Charlie and I were just devastated. We were devastated by this because it made us look like we were liars. And we were in a position where people wanted to see us fall.
Why am I telling you this? I get reached out to by a young woman in New York, and she says to me — at this time — "You know Erika knew Kanye." And I said, "Erika didn't know Kanye. We're talking about Erika — she never knew Kanye. She wasn't even in the picture in April when Charlie and I were doing all the Kanye stuff. She's never been with him in pictures. What are you referring to?" And I just assumed this was maybe something Erika had said — she lies all the time, maybe she was just like, "Oh, now I date this guy." Whatever.
And then this woman says, "No, I have actual proof that when all that stuff was going down with you and Kanye and Charlie, Erika was back-dialing and telling people that she knew the people who were around Kanye, that she had family around Kanye, and pushed for that tweet to go out."
So I said, "Can you get me some proof of that?" And this young woman in New York got me the proof. Proof that at the very least Erika was making that claim.
What I can tell you is that neither I nor Charlie nor Kanye knew that Erika knew someone on Kanye's team. And now — who knows if it's her real family or her Nicole Rothstein family, since she calls everybody family — but you're telling me she's playing the role of cute new girlfriend, watching us go through this entire thing being absolutely heartbroken, and yet she's on the side telling people that she knows why that tweet went out? She knows why Kanye's hand was forced?
Let me tell you right now — I will find out who in Kanye's circle knew Erika when that tweet went out. I will find out. I will call Yay and I will find out. How duplicitous is this woman, that she is playing the role of "oh my gosh, I'm so sorry this is happening to you" while telling people she knows the other side of it — the people who were pressuring Yay to do this?
It took me a lot to process that. I would not put this out here unless I was 100% certain of it. I am at 100% certainty that that is what Erika told this young woman, who had receipts. So in my book, Erika is a whole fraud. Just a whole fraud.
And then to jump back into this timeline — look at this. We don't know what she's doing, suddenly she gets her real estate license. And I'm just going to say that it's long been understood that real estate is a really easy way to move money. So she sits down with Charlie, suddenly gets her real estate license, Kanye tweets "peace out, Blexit," Erika films Summer House.
But look at December 31st — the end of the year. FeedMe Incorporated is formed. FeedMe Incorporated will eventually become Superfeed Technologies. Superfeed Technologies is the company that both Erika's mother and Tyler Bowyer are on the board of. That's interesting — that company gets formed as Erika starts dating Charlie. And these people all know each other. Her one blind spot is that she just can't remember — that's her one category she can't recall — how she knows Tyler Bowyer, even though he is in business with her mother and had her standing behind Trump in 2015.
It is my personal opinion that a deal was done. When I look at the evidence, when I look at everything I'm looking at, when I see how duplicitous she was — I know that Charlie did not know these things because I was there. I was the closest person to Charlie while he was beginning to date Erika. No one spent more time with him or spoke to him more. He did not know these things about Erika Kirk — Erika Frantzve was her name at the time. We had no idea that she was telling people she knew the people in Kanye's orbit when he sent that tweet out.
Something is not right. We all know something is not right. And I am just aghast at the people who are going to continue to pretend like all of this is perfectly normal.
Matt Walsh, the Kouri Richins case, and the double standard on grieving widows
Candace Owens: I absolutely have to comment on Matt Walsh for a tweet he put out yesterday. He has very much been on the side of "how dare you attack a grieving widow" — making the argument that data points like Erika lying pathologically, a potential billion-dollar motive to have Charlie Kirk killed, Erika lying about the fact that her husband texted multiple people the night before saying he feared he was going to be killed — his overriding point is that these things are not evidence. How a widow is behaving, whether she's grieving correctly — these things cannot be introduced in court.
And yet yesterday he tweeted this regarding a murder that took place in Utah. It was a New York Post article that said, "Grief author Kouri Richins found guilty of fatally poisoning her husband for his $4 million estate." And Matt Walsh comments and writes: "There is no good moral reason why she should not simply be taken outside the morning after her conviction and hanged. This woman has lost her right to exist."
That's strong words. I was stunned by it because I have to assume he did exactly zero due diligence on this case — a case that I actually followed because it was completely nutty.
I'm assuming he was not aware that after Kouri Richins murdered her husband — a fentanyl overdose — she at first played the role of a grieving widow for an entire year. She was not initially arrested or suspected in her husband's death at all, because she was crying, she called 911. In fact, she was so bold in her grieving widow stage that she wrote a book — a children's book about grieving — and did a little local book tour. Take a listen to this ABC clip of Kouri Richins, who had not yet been arrested, promoting her book a year later.
TV Host: Joining us now is author of Are You With Me?, Kouri Richins, to share her three C's to helping kids cope with grief. And Kouri, I want to start with your story. What happened in your personal life?
Kouri Richins: So, my husband passed away unexpectedly last year. March 4th was the one-year anniversary for us, and he was 39. It completely took us all by shock. We have three little boys — 10, nine, and six. And my kids and I kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving processes that we've experienced this last year, hoping that it can help other kids deal with this and find happiness some way or another.
TV Host: So you actually wrote this book with your children?
Kouri Richins: I did.
TV Host: And it's only been a year. How did you process and say — you go from processing death to "I need to write a book and help others"?
Kouri Richins: I just watched the struggle that my kids were going through, and I actually went on Amazon and Barnes & Noble trying to find something we could use to cope at nights. Nights are the hardest, it seems like, for everybody when dealing with anything. But I just wanted some story to read to my kids at night. And I just could not find anything that really suited them or helped them find comfort and peace. And so I was like, let's just write one. And so I took things that my kids have said to me this last year, we articulated it and put it into a story, and just have hopes that it will help other kids.
Candace Owens: In short, this woman was not actually a grieving widow. Matt, one could argue she may have even been a psychopath for doing this — being able to do all of that after she killed her husband.
March 4th, 2022 is when her husband, Eric Richins, was murdered. It took them until May of 2023 to bring charges against her — more than a year to build a case. And do you know how they built that case? People who actually cared about Eric and offered various details — to the point that, well, none of these various details about how a widow is grieving would ever survive in the court of law. Ironically, in the case against Kouri Richins, for which she was ultimately found guilty, the prosecutors played the 911 call and said explicitly that it didn't sound like a grieving widow.
Prosecutor: "We're going to listen to the first part — actually, most of the 911 call. Again, I ask that as you listen to it, you'll hear the first minute. The first minute is not the sound of a wife becoming a widow. To echo her friend Chelsea Barney, the first minute is the sound of a wife becoming a black widow."
Candace Owens: Her own friend said she's not grieving right. She sounds like she's become a black widow, not a widow.
And it gets even crazier. They weren't even able to prove how she poisoned her husband. There's a headline: "Prosecutors in Kouri Richins's murder trial could not prove how she poisoned her husband. They didn't need to." They literally did not know how the fentanyl got into her husband's body.
The article tells us: "To prove their case, prosecutors relied largely on circumstantial evidence to tie her to Eric Richins's death. Cases based on direct evidence are not necessarily stronger than those that rely on circumstantial evidence, legal experts say. Unlike direct evidence, such as eyewitnesses or recordings of a crime, circumstantial cases require jurors to determine a defendant's guilt by weaving together indirect evidence. In Kouri Richins's case, prosecutors focused on potential motives for Kouri Richins to kill her husband and the actions they said show that she had a guilty conscience after his death — both elements that can illustrate a defendant's state of mind. They also used digital records to corroborate key witness testimony, which strengthened their circumstantial case. All of these things together start to add up and the prosecution builds this huge mountain."
In this particular case, they relied on things like the fact that she was in financial distress, that she had been having an affair, that her husband apparently wanted a divorce, that she was grieving differently — or not at all. They also found a life insurance policy deemed to be fraudulent. And of course, she was set to inherit millions with him gone.
The star witness was actually a housekeeper named Carmen, who testified that Kouri would come to her and ask her to buy drugs on her behalf — which allowed them to speculate that this is how she got her hands on an illicit street drug.
Now, all of that is not to suggest that Erika directly murdered Charlie. But it is to say that were it not for Eric Richins's actual friends, siblings, housekeeper, and even Kouri Richins's own friends who turned on her and said, "No, something is not right — she's not behaving correctly, something is off," and people who were willing to stand up and do what you guys describe as immoral or evil and demand a further investigation when nothing makes sense — if they hadn't compiled those other facts, if they hadn't been willing to show text messages, private correspondences from Eric, show those messages to the public and to the investigative team, and refused the foregone conclusion that spouses would simply never have a hand in the murder of one another — which actually flies in the face of reality, because you're most likely to be murdered by someone you know, that's just a fact of life — were it not for those people who did not accept the narrative of his accidental ingestion of fentanyl, Kouri Richins, the woman that you believe should be hanged for poisoning her husband on the basis of circumstantial evidence, would probably today be considered a brave single mother trying to clean up the mess left behind by her husband's untimely death.
And so what I would say is this: here is what I know. Grieving widows do not lie about threats their husbands were facing the night before their death. They don't lie about that stuff. Grieving widows do not make up quotations that the surgeon never said — about a Superman neck — to manage PR, least of all on the day that they're burying their husbands. I know enough to know that those things simply don't make sense. And I refuse to pretend otherwise.
So since you are now in the habit of calling people out publicly for caring, I thought that I should respond and encourage those people to keep going. It's okay if you get some things wrong, but keep going. Go, Max. Do it for Charlie. Believe me when I say that Charlie would want you guys to, too.
Comments and closing
Candace Owens: Top comments from yesterday's episode. Someone wrote: "So we are not supposed to attack Erika Kirk because she's a widow, but even though Joe Kent is a widow, we can attack him because he is anti-war — got it." Look, I don't write the rules, but yeah, they are this ridiculous. They just make them up as they go along.
And Lady Ray Pearland writes: "The notion of being called a Nazi because you don't want to go to war is wild." Yeah, "Nazi" just has no meaning anymore. It's like we're all Nazis now — okay, cool. It just doesn't land. Nobody cares anymore. There is no appetite for being shocked when someone is called a Nazi.
I do want to shout out some people. This series has been made possible by so many people around the world who have given us little tidbits — people online who have similarly been fighting for justice for Charlie, all these small accounts that will never get a ton of credit for the things they have done. So today I just wanted to shout out Lindsmack on Twitter, who goes by Real Truth Real Justice. I just wanted to shout her out in particular for the justice-for-Charlie work. There are so many accounts like this, and Lindsmack is a real one. I'll leave it at that.
As for today's comments — Mrs. W writes: "After the last two episodes, I'm starting to wonder if you're pregnant again. Pregnant Candace is fire and I'm so here for it." That's so funny. My PR person called me and told me he said the exact same thing this morning. I was like, man, I really have a pregnant reputation. I have been fired up lately — I feel you guys.
Jenna writes: "I so wish I could hear you speak and pray tomorrow at the Catholics for Catholics event. I have been offering my daily masses for you and your family. Offering my mass for you tomorrow on the feast of St. Joseph. Truth wins. Christ is King. Mary is Queen of Heaven and Earth. Keep going, Max." Thank you so much. And all of the emails from Catholic World make me so happy.
I did want to show a picture because it made me really happy — one of our fans, a cradle Catholic, purchased our "I told my priest I would chill" sweatshirt and then snapped a picture with her priest. It's just adorable. She says, "I'm like you — I'm super feisty." They just look very happy. It was a bright spot in my morning.
Speaking of which, for the people wondering about it — this user writes: "Remember the note that Erika found on Charlie's desk? Read how it said 'loneliness.' It makes you wonder if something must have been happening behind closed doors." I mean, I've told you guys the truth: they did not have the happy marriage that she builds it into. And whenever he wanted to go, I was fine with it. But that's fake. Okay? I didn't say it when it was first going down, but now that I'm just seeing how she lies, having learned about the Kanye thing, I can't go halfway. I can't even go 10% with the fakeness. She's just a fundamentally dishonest person who should not be at the helm of that company — or any company. I don't even know what she's ever done in life. I can't figure out the timeline. Who is Erika Kirk? Honestly couldn't tell you, other than the fact that there are a lot of problems with her alibi on September 8th and September 10th.
That will be our series finale. We will not see you guys tomorrow — I'm doing the Catholic event — and we will also not see you guys Friday because we don't do Fridays. So we will see you on Monday for the series finale of Bride of Charlie.