Candace Owens covers Brian Harpole's legal notices and Jeremy Boreing's attacks on her husband
Solo episode of the Candace podcast, episode 334.
Summary
Candace Owens covers two main stories in this episode. First, she details new developments in Brian Harpole's defamation lawsuit against her, focusing on the fact that Harpole's legal team has been sending out preservation orders — including one to Douglas Blake Bednars, a YouTuber who made far more explicit accusations against Harpole than Owens ever did, yet who is not being sued. Owens argues this discrepancy reveals the lawsuit is retaliatory rather than a genuine defamation action. Second, she responds to Jeremy Boreing, former CEO of the Daily Wire, who went on his podcast to platform Laura Loomer's's's claims that Owens's husband George Farmer was arrested for DUI and leaving the scene of an accident, and to encourage reporters to investigate whether the couple lied to the Department of Homeland Security during George's citizenship process. Owens calls this a fabrication, identifies it as part of a years-long campaign by the Daily Wire to destroy her, and counters by raising questions about a Daily Wire camera operator, Zachary Lewis, who was arrested on child pornography charges while working in the company's children's programming division.
Key Takeaways
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Brian Harpole's Preservation Orders and the Blake Bednars Discrepancy
Candace Owens: Happy Wednesday. Let me tell you what I have for you today — a lot. Jeremy Boreing, former CEO of the Daily Wire, goes on the offense against my husband. That's odd. People don't normally do that. He's encouraging reporters to look into Laura Loomer's's's's claims — did Candace lie to DHS? He's kind of putting that energy out there. I guess you can just toss another coin in the "I told you so" jar. The Daily Wire operates like a deranged cult. They will never stop trying to destroy my life. We're going to speak about that. We're also going to discuss Brian Harpole, first and foremost, because he sent out some more legal notices that you should know about. His most recent one is beyond interesting to me. I think you will find this to be very, very interesting indeed, because it's a dog that isn't barking. We are learning about our legal system if nothing else. And there are a lot of people, it turns out, who abuse it for retaliation.
Let's start with the interesting updates regarding Brian Harpole's lawsuit against me for defamation — namely that they are beginning to send out what are known as preservation orders. Essentially what this means, when you receive one, no matter who you are, is that you're not allowed to delete anything. It will list through: here is what you are no longer allowed to delete. Their lawyer will send it. You can't delete your text messages, your Signal messages. Don't delete any communications between you and this person, emails, et cetera. It's basically a way of letting someone know that they may be in possession of something that is relevant to helping either the defense or the prosecution build their case against someone else, or to protect somebody else. It signals: we're going to try to subpoena this information in the future, and you have a hold — don't delete anything.
So how do I know that this is what they are doing? Well, because their lawyers emailed my team wanting me to give them Ian Carroll's address. I have actually never had Ian Carroll's address. I think he kind of lives like a nomad. They were operating, it appears to me, under some delusion that he was a regular co-host of this show or a host of the show and that he worked for me, when actually, as you all know, he just filled in for me while I was on maternity leave last year and we paid for his Airbnb while he did. So I could give them the Airbnb address, but I don't think that would be helpful.
I was very confused as to what Ian Carroll has to do with really anything pertaining to Brian Harpole, other than the fact that very early on he was used by the other side — YouTubers, remember Paramount Tactical, you had Valhalla — and they were like, "Are these military guys trying to warn you?" They were trying to get a bunch of people to tell me that if I did this, if I went out with this, it was going to be a big, big mistake. I would never recover from this. My career was going to be over. I hear that so much. I have heard that a lot over the last ten-plus years.
They had a lot of things to say, first and foremost that Mitch was never at Fort Wachuka, that he was a complete fraud. He could not even get onto the base because he never even served in the military. That's where we were starting. Both of those things were eventually proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Yes, he did serve. And yes, in fact, as I instantly said back to Ian, he definitively was at Fort Wachuka. I have looked at the metadata. He recorded videos while he was there because it was sort of a trip down memory lane from when he was serving. He also had submitted to me his hotel receipts. I was very confident that they were spinning nonsense and I wasn't quite sure why.
And then they began the attacks on his past. Well, if she speaks to him, we've got all this dirt on what he did to ex-girlfriends twenty years ago, and kids, and baby mamas. Suddenly it got very Jerry Springer. I said, I don't care about any of that. I don't care if this man has twenty-seven baby mamas. Even if you knew someone who was literally addicted to crack cocaine, if they say, "Hey, I this morning saw so-and-so at CVS," okay — maybe they saw that person. They can actually say, "Yeah, I saw this person at CVS." This is not a character assessment. It's about where you were, if you were exactly where you said you were.
Now Ian, after obviously not being able to convince me that what they were telling him was true, gracefully just bowed out of the entire situation — but of course did what they asked, delivered their warnings. The military bro war warnings. They said they were in communication with lieutenant colonels, really trying to come in with the professionals. This is stolen valor. Anyway, more on that later, because it's actually the second character that I find to be even more interesting to the story.
So there were actually people online who did publicly and very clearly accuse Brian Harpole of murdering Charlie Kirk. Okay, it wasn't implied. They weren't like, "Hey, maybe it was this guy." They said: killed Charlie Kirk directly. Forget a meeting at Fort Wachuka — this is our guy, Brian Harpole. He pulled the trigger or pulled something. And yet, mysteriously, I've been watching and paying attention, and those people are not being sued for defamation. People that were making videos claiming that he did that — that's a bit weird. Wouldn't you first sue the person who is so clear-cut saying that you murdered someone? Baron Coleman actually noted this discrepancy on his podcast. Take a listen.
Baron Coleman: Owens is the most high-profile spreader of the "Basist Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories," but she is not the only one. I did not yet turn the page when I thought he has to be talking about Blake Bednars here, because Blake Bednars basically accuses by name Brian Harpole every single day of murdering Charlie Kirk. Like frame by frame. He has a whole video called "Judas Harpole." Like, for crying out loud, if you're going to sue anybody — Candace had somebody on, she was like, "Yeah, that's a close call, I'm not really sure what to make of that." And we're going to sue her? And Blake Bednars is out here going, "Yeah, Brian Harpole, he did it. He absolutely did it. You can't tell me he didn't do it. Here's video of him doing it. Here's where he squeezed his hand. He's the one that did it." All up and down X, all over the X Spaces, all over YouTube. And then I thought, well, maybe they don't know about it because Brian doesn't have a huge following. It's sizable, but it's not huge. So maybe he didn't know about it. Oh, no. No, no, he does. He does. It's right there. It's literally on the screen right there. And it says his name is Brian Harpole. And then it has like action shots. "The detonator triggers under his shirt below his — " I mean, it's like an actual arrow pointing. "The remote controller's in his front right pocket." This is what caused — like, he's not opining. He's not giving an opinion. He's telling you this is how the man died. That's what he's telling you.
Candace Owens: And yet, this Blake Bednars character is not listed in this lawsuit. There's no action against him. Now, Baron is not exaggerating, by the way. The person he's referring to, full name Douglas Blake Bednars, certainly did not mince words when he began positing theories about Brian Harpole after Brian's disastrous interview with Shawn Ryan. Here are just a random selection of his tweets.
He wrote: "This is who squeezed the trigger to initiate the detonation under Charlie's shirt. Brian Judith Harpole was wearing the controls under his clothes. I am one trillion percent certain." That might be defamation.
Next one: "There was never a gun. It was a weapon called a shape charge. Here is who actually detonated the charge under Charlie's t-shirt. His name is Brian Harpole from Dallas, Texas."
Third: "A gun was never fired and a bullet did not hit his neck. The pendant-shaped charge was detonated by Brian Harpole. This is why the necklace was such a central focus right after the incident. Erika and Frank had to establish its existence. That is not the necklace that Charlie Kirk was wearing."
Here's another one: "What did Brian Harpole have hidden on his person? Two things. One, the item in his front right pants pocket is what caused the audio interference. And the item under his shirt below his left armpit is what he squeezed discreetly at the moment that CK was hit."
I could go on and on and on. It was just an everyday beat — Brian Harpole murdered Charlie Kirk, and here's how he did it. Everyone saw this in the Twitterverse. I certainly was aware of it. And here's actually even a clip of Blake making those accusations.
Blake Bednars: Do you see this right here? I want you to pay attention to every time with Brian. This is what he does. Any time he goes and messes with the weapon or the controller and or the detonator, the trigger, he is pulling his shirt down because he does not want all the wires to be seen.
Candace Owens: So I'm just demonstrating to you — if you're lawyers for Brian Harpole, this would be a slam dunk, I would say. I would at the very least send this guy a cease and desist. Not necessarily for suing, but I probably would send this guy a cease and desist. So you have to imagine my surprise when I got contacted by Blake Bednars himself — the man right there — and I learned that Blake Bednars had been served by Dylan Law Group, but not with a lawsuit. With a simple preservation order, because they think he might have something that might help to prosecute me in a defamation suit.
What this is, guys — we are living in upside-down land. This is beyond the realm of sanity. They know who he is. They're listing him in a lawsuit. They know what he has said, they're demonstrating what he has said and blaming me, and then — nope. We're suing Candace. Hey Blake, could you help us? We feel like she talked about this Fort Wachuka beating and we're trying to get her. So what actually is happening here?
Who Is Douglas Blake Bednars?
And who even is Douglas Bednars? I'll tell you about my communications with him. I was introduced to him via someone that I trust, very early on in our investigation when we were in the gathering footage phase. We had reached out and said to everybody, "If you've got any footage, please send it to us." A girlfriend of mine contacted me and said, "Hey, there's this guy who is purporting to have never-before-seen footage from the UVU event. Can I set up a talk with you?" I said, "Of course." He said that he somehow had a contact who was there at UVU who had everything. So we connected.
The first thing that was weird was that he wanted to be on FaceTime. He really wanted to be on FaceTime. I thought, okay, that's odd, but okay. We discussed some possible theories. Could this have been an exploding mic? I don't know. We did not discuss Brian Harpole, that's for sure. But then as I kept asking him, "Hey, could you send me that really long footage that you've got?" he just kind of never did. He sent me a clip here, a clip there, a link to somebody else's footage. He just sort of kept kicking the can down the road. And eventually I just felt like something was off. The intuition came on and I said, "Something's not right here."
My Spidey senses went up in December, right around the time that we began discussing Fort Wachuka, when he suddenly shifted gears and began sending me stuff about Brian Harpole and making radical demands that I show and present what he believes happened about Brian Harpole. Basically trying to say that I was obligated to talk about Brian Harpole. It was insane. And also — where's your back footage? Maybe challenging to see if I actually had it. I don't know. But I never took the bait. I always trusted my gut. I said, "Something's not right here." So I just stopped replying to him beginning in mid-December. Just didn't respond at all. And I am so grateful that I did not, because it may very well be that they were attempting to set a trap of some description.
I'll tell you why I'm getting there with Turning Point USA. And you let me know if you agree, because someone is going to explicitly say it. I'm going to show you evidence of that. Actually, that's definitively what one of the YouTubers said — our military boys who were effectively threatening me to not ask Mitch anything. Don't interview Mitch. Don't speak to Mitch. He's got baby mamas. He's got issues. We're going to blow up your spot. We're going to show everybody what kind of a man he is. Okay? I'm not trying to marry this dude. Just trying to figure out if he was at Fort Wachuka.
The Military YouTuber Threats and the Turning Point USA Source
Let me read some of those messages now to provide you with context. These messages were intended to be delivered to me. So this is the YouTube military boys insisting that I speak with them so they could explain to me — because this is their territory, they know military stuff — that this is a case of stolen valor. Mitch wasn't even in the military. He's a fraud. I spoke to an ex-wife who said he's never even been to Fort Wachuka in his whole life. That's where we were starting.
Here's one of those messages I want to read: "Dude, he didn't see Erika and Brian Harpole. He's just a con artist. My source at Turning Point USA literally said they have all the documents and proof — both Brian and Erika weren't there — and they're purposefully giving Candace rope to hang herself with this while they build a massive defamation lawsuit."
What? I'm in communication with Turning Point USA during this time. I sat down with Erika this exact week. Why wouldn't you — does that make any sense? Why would you — this doesn't make sense to me.
Here's another message: "She thinks because he went to a military base that means that his story about seeing Erika and Harpole is somehow credible. Also, it's looking like he spent time locked up and got his special forces tab revoked for crimes against a child. Anyway, I did my due diligence by giving her a chance. We can do it the hard way and tie her to a con artist with a horrible history of abuse against women and children and raising $130,000 for him."
Like, this was — they were basically threatening me before I spoke to Mitch. They were saying: you go through with this and we're going to tie you to this con artist. First he wasn't in the military. Then they said, okay, he was in the military, but that doesn't matter — he wasn't at Fort Wachuka. Okay, maybe he was at Fort Wachuka, but just because he was at Fort Wachuka doesn't mean he saw Brian and Erika. Okay, we've been open to that possibility that he misremembered who he saw. But this felt weird to me. It was a weird reaction. It felt like they were threatening me and saying they were going to, as always, ruin my career if I didn't do it their way. They could protect me otherwise. You know: we could protect you, but you need to listen to us and not speak to Mitch anymore.
And they've got a source at Turning Point USA who's saying they're planning it. They're intentionally not answering my questions because they want to give me rope to hang myself while I'm talking to them. So they're strategically not responding, according to this person — according to this military YouTube bro. But I've got to say, that's a far cry from what Brian Harpole is now claiming in his lawsuit filing. Remember, he says the reason they didn't respond to my — not one, not two, but three separate messages — was because he didn't want to grant me an exclusive. He didn't want me to make money off of clicks by telling me yes or no. Are you guys buying that?
I was also wondering: who is the source for these military bro YouTubers? Who is the Turning Point USA source telling them that they're intentionally not responding and they want to plot a lawsuit? Well, you guys remember the answer arrived somewhat accidentally. You will recall when YouTuber Paramount Tactical, one of the rows, accidentally read Andrew Kolvet's text messages live on air. He said — and just a little too quickly — he read the message and then Andrew said, "Please don't share publicly," but he had already read that out loud. And it was an alibi regarding Fort Wachuka, asserting that the story was insane and that Erika was at home with her children.
It was that accidental slip that caused the internet to explode. Because why would Andrew and Erika need to be coordinating a PR message secretly with a relatively unknown YouTuber when they were both in communication with me at that time? Erika and I had just sat down on December 15th. This felt oddly backhanded to me. Also, during our sit-down, Erika told me that she was no longer using Andrew as PR because he kept going rogue. Well, here we had proof that he wasn't going rogue — because it was a photo of her sending him a picture alibi of her covering her phone with her kids on the wrong date.
So I'm going, what's going on? Why is he the secret Turning Point USA source coordinating? Why isn't Erika just texting me saying, "Hey, you saw your show — just wanted to let you know she wasn't there"?
This arrived as a double whammy. Everyone was acting really weird about Fort Wachuka. They still are. So I set about finding out by way of messaging both Andrew Kolvet and Justin Streiff about Fort Wachuka on December 27th, after we realized that Andrew Kolvet was the one working on this messaging. And here was what I wrote to Justin Streiff and Andrew Kolvet in a group text:
"Putting you both on a chat here since there seems to be a gap between what Andrew communicates publicly and what the truth is. Very simple request. Mitch Snow is very certain he saw Brian Harpole departing a meeting at Fort Wachuka around 7:30 a.m. on September 9th. I went out to Brian Harpole to debunk that and have not received a response. If you would like to submit something to me — a video, metadata, text messages, et cetera — I would be happy to publicly debunk that. Not as crucial in my opinion because he never said that she was a part of the meeting, but he also believes that he saw Erika departing a hotel on the base on September 8th, accompanied by a special forces-looking guy. This would have been around 6:45 p.m. If Andrew would like to debunk that formally, please do. I'm happy to update everyone so he and Erika do not need to back-channel through obscure YouTubers. There was also now residual confusion because Andrew messaged Gary — that's Paramount Tactical — stating that Erika was with Charlie on the 9th at the office all day. But Erika herself told Jesse Watters that Charlie was at the office all day and never said that she was with him. She said that they had dinner that night together, which I am aware of because it was with Father Klein. Gary has confirmed to me that Andrew's messages are related to Erika's schedule on the 9th. I honestly was not as interested in his sighting of Erika, but this is now blowing up due to Andrew getting caught communicating with these YouTubers and making matters more confusing."
That's exactly how I felt. I felt like this is getting weird now. Like, why? He wasn't making any accusations against Erika. There's a thousand reasons she could be on the base. Her mother works with the military. She could have been visiting a friend. She could have been visiting her mother. For all I know, when her mother was sick, she could have been on the military base. You have access to that when you work in intel. None of this was strange until they made it very strange by their reaction to it. The threats, the trying to get me under duress — we'll ruin you if you go out with this, we're looking at his baby mamas, we're pulling up Mitch's entire life. I said, something's not right here.
I still, however, in a noble pursuit, attempted to get an answer from someone. And I messaged Dan Flood — this is all the way in January now. That's Brian's business partner, longtime colleague. On January 4th, I messaged him. This is what I wrote: "Hey Dan, Candace Owens here, long time no talk. I know you still have contact with Brian Harpole and that tensions might be a bit weird between you guys and Turning Point USA. I have reached out to him a few times, but I wanted to see if you could maybe help facilitate a conversation between he and I. My goal is pretty straightforward. I have an eyewitness who is certain he saw him at Fort Wachuka on the morning of the 9th, and I just want to get a statement from him on that. Thank you." No reply.
There's this caricature of Candace Owens out there that she never does any due diligence, just puts out vibes, doesn't try to actually get to the truth. This situation wasn't that interesting until it became very interesting on the basis of everyone's reactions, everyone being weird about delivering a basic yes or no. And what would be the reason for that? What would be the reason that everyone got all weird, that suddenly Andrew Kolvet's working with YouTubers and trying to get out an alibi not through me, but through these YouTubers?
Are we to assume that he was the one directing the threats? Maybe. I don't know. We'll find out. We sure as hell will find out in this lawsuit. I would say there are only two possible reasons for how everybody reacted. First possible reason is that they really were, as was expressed from the military bros before I even hosted Mitch, plotting to trap me in a defamation lawsuit, and everyone immediately got on board trying to facilitate that by not answering and giving weird answers. That's one option. The second option is that they really were actually at Fort Wachuka. We haven't seen any clarity or any evidence yet to the contrary, despite his filing, which to me reads like a PR campaign.
I agree with the assessment that Baron Coleman gave in his show — that if I am a federal judge, a lawsuit like that, which reads like you are trying to get it on the cover of a magazine, would make me a bit upset. I would say you're playing with the courts here. You spent the first three pages calling her an anti-Semite. What does this have to do with your claims?
Anyway, I wanted to show you that because I think there is something weird about the Blake Bednars piece. It does not make sense to me. I think there is some digging that needs to be done. Everyone all at once started feeling really weird about this guy and how angry he was that no one would perpetuate his claims about Brian Harpole pulling a trigger to murder Charlie Kirk. And I think there's something there. I'll find out. Obviously I'm going to keep digging. We'll keep you updated.
Jeremy Boreing Goes After George Farmer
Candace Owens: We now return to — I don't even know what season we're in regarding Jeremy Boreing. His non-stop pursuit of me, Tucker Carlson. Former CEO of the Daily Wire. You will recall he got forced out of the company. Generally speaking, because he's a deranged psycho — that's speaking generally. Most people who have ever worked with him would have that same conclusion. Never going to stop trying to make it in Hollywood. Certainly no executive by any stretch of the imagination.
Anyway, Jeremy Boreing — I had indicated to you guys — was the number one person behind effectively stalking me when I left the Daily Wire. There's no other way to say it. It was literal stalking: sending interns on secret trips, onto planes, to follow me to my public events. This is after you fired me. This stuff is unheard of. And that's not even beginning to get into what happened beyond that. Stalking every single like that I made on Instagram, on Twitter, reading that as disparaging, grounds to sue. Really strange stuff that if you did this as someone's ex-boyfriend, you would end up in prison. You would get arrested. There's no question about it.
He has an obsessive personality that did not just follow me — it also followed Brett Cooper. And because I know his pattern, because I know which people he works with — he never gets his hands dirty. Which people he works with to get messages out. Like when I was at the Daily Wire, he used Alyssa Cordova, who would send things to Ian Miles Chong — who is generally speaking very gross — to go after his enemies. Because I know how he works, I just know when I'm in a Jeremy Boreing storm. I just know when something has a touch of the Daily Wire in it. And I just felt it last week, leading up to Brian Harpole's filing by their lawyer — this is the lawyer that Jeremy Boreing and Ben and the Daily Wire worked with to pursue me for two years in court, with the explicit goal of bankrupting me.
And when a lot of this personal information was coming out about my family — I told you two of the cars, accurately published online, LLCs that were found that you would only be able to find if you paid that LLC, which the Daily Wire paid me for years — personal information that I had shared with them. I just knew that this was coming from the Daily Wire. They'll never admit it. They always pretend it's not them. But I think now the public is seeing how they behave generally speaking.
So imagine my surprise — not at all — when Jeremy took to his show yesterday to essentially platform Laura Loomer's's's's attacks against my husband. Remember, she's been all over the place. My husband hit a guy, she named the guy, pulled up insurance paperwork. I told you then she combined it with another incident and said that we paid off someone to hide the fact that George was brandishing weapons in a car accident — like he was a gangster or something, like the Oxford boy come a long way — that we paid someone to hide this because George was not a citizen when this happened. That has been her overarching theme. There have been a lot of other themes too, but let's just stick to this one. And here is the way in which Jeremy tries to confirm her story. Listen to his words.
Jeremy Boreing: I've read almost every day for a year and change that I left the Daily Wire after bankrupting the company. That's not true. Every single year that I led the Daily Wire, we grew revenue every year, year-over-year for ten straight years. My last full quarter as CEO was at that time the biggest quarter in the history of the company. My last full year as CEO was at that time the biggest year in the history of the company, just like the year before it had been and the year before that and the year before that. But the lie persists.
In recent weeks, public records and documents have surfaced alleging that Candace's husband, George Farmer, was arrested in Nashville in August 2023 for DUI and leaving the scene of an accident. When Candace insists that this has nothing to do with her husband, that it's some completely different George Farmer in Nashville, Tennessee, well, that denial strikes me as pretty audacious. I was first made aware of the arrest and charges — leaving the scene of an accident after wrecking his truck at three times the legal limit while carrying a loaded firearm — shortly after it happened, back when Candace still worked for me at the Daily Wire. People who had access to the court documents approached me with them quite early, before the situation was resolved. By the time Candace started to engage in more and more evil behavior, the arrest was pretty well known in conservative circles. I was personally approached more than once by people asking me if I would speak out about the charges. In every instance, I refused. Not because I thought Candace's conduct was defensible — far from it — but because I believed then and still believe that family should generally be off limits.
But of course, Candace doesn't believe family is off limits. Just ask Charlie Kirk's widow. And so people now have decided to play by Candace's rules. But here too, the lack of journalism online is very much a part of the story. While the charges are now public knowledge, making Candace's denials look increasingly strained, there's almost no reporting on what actually happened to the case. There's still no reporting on what happened to the charges themselves. Did Candace and George pay to make them go away? Did the police make an error or violate George's rights in some way? Were the charges brought against him found to be untrue? I mean, the police arresting you doesn't mean you're guilty, after all. Responsible journalists would be pursuing these questions if there were any responsible journalists left to pursue them.
Candace Owens: You guys, if I could just explain to you for a second — I saw red last night. I saw red like I was in a state of — let me calm myself down — when I saw this. If you just know who Jeremy Boreing is, the audacity of the lie that he is telling.
So just to break this down, okay — just to break down what he is asserting. He's asserting that this happened while I was working at the Daily Wire and someone came to him and wanted a comment or a statement, but they never came to me. They never came to George. And he never told us. That's what he starts with. Absolutely untrue and a lie and completely made up. There was never an incident that happened while I was at the Daily Wire where the media contacted the executives about me — like enemy number one — and they just sat on that? Like: Jeremy, do you want to comment on this? We're not going to reach out to Candace, but would you like to comment on this? He's making it up.
First and foremost, I just want to say kudos to me for telling you guys that these were the psychos behind the push. It was beyond obvious. It had all the markings, like I said, of the Daily Wire. So what he is doing — that first part is more relevant. He's angry that I told the truth about his spending habits that put the Daily Wire in the financial hole. It's just a fact. He also thinks that you're an idiot. He always talks about my rhetoric, my rhetorical tricks, but actually he's playing a rhetoric game here when he says revenue grew every year while he was there. All that means is we sold more stuff. Revenue growing means nothing. If you spend $100,000 to take home $50,000, you're in the red. You didn't have a good year. Revenue means how much money the company is taking in, but how much it spends matters much more. What is the profit?
And Jeremy Boreing went for broke after the success — not of what he did, but of what Matt Walsh did. We had our documentaries. We had a tremendous year. And when money was at peak, he decided: this is my time to try to make it in Hollywood again. I failed out of Hollywood. I want to pursue this high school dream. So yeah, if they took in more money than ever before year after year after year, it doesn't mean anything if they were spending more than they were taking in. And that is what happened. Pen Dragon, Jeremy's high school dream, drove the company into the ground financially. I want to be clear that not even Disney Studios would have invested tens of millions of dollars in that. That's a tremendous financial risk. He thought it was going to be a roaring success. It was an abject financial failure. So he's mad at me for exposing the fact that he failed as a CEO.
And so now he's decided: I'm going to boost Laura Loomer's's's's claims. In the same way they did last time, he always acts like he's an authority. No one will question me because I was the CEO of the Daily Wire and I'm telling you this went down when Candace was working for me and I just didn't say anything. That is a lie. And how is he doing it? By speaking very carefully in the attempt to confirm her reporting — he doesn't actually confirm her reporting, and he asks other reporters to instead go out and confirm her reporting.
So let's clarify. When he says, "I was working for the Daily Wire when this incident happened," he means that the date of the incident report that Laura Loomer's's's is sharing happened during my tenure at the Daily Wire. Okay? Literally — again, I cannot stress — never ever was there a DUI incident where the executives were contacted about me during their time there. So no, he had no idea and never spoke to me about this or anything having to do with George outside of George helping them to raise money. He knows exactly who George is because George was traveling with the co-CEO while Jeremy was gone. It'd be amazing if they contacted him, because you guys will recall Jeremy stepped down in order to go pursue Pen Dragon. He had to temporarily put a hold on being the CEO because he went to Hungary to shoot Pen Dragon. So nobody would have been contacting Jeremy Boreing at all.
My husband was trying to help them raise money. They went to London, him and the co-CEO — the interim full CEO, Caleb Robinson. George introduced them to all of his circle of investor friends, his father's circle of investor friends. So when you see Laura suddenly knowing a lot about my father-in-law's investments, I'm a little suspicious that it's probably coming from them.
So what is he actually referring to? After I was fired and they began to stalk me and my husband — and I am saying literally and seriously stalking me and my husband — they themselves hired PR people, outside PR people. My lawyers believe that they had hired private eyes as well to find any and all relevant dirt on me and my husband. This is how they play. This is the way that they think. If we can get a little blackmail, we can get people to do what we want, and that will be that. This is the reason that they sent the intern on the plane to follow me to Texas. They're always looking to catch you in a moment. They peppered her with a question that she was supposed to record, that was meant to embarrass me on stage, and they were going to pass it around to make it look like it went viral organically. They're passing it out to all their little minions. They wanted to destroy me by any means possible.
It is the Daily Wire and Jeremy Boreing and their affiliates that stumbled upon an incident report with George Farmer in the late summer of 2024, when we were contacted. We were the ones who were told through our PR team that they were trying to get the New York Post to publish it. That the Daily Wire had found a report and they were trying to push the New York Post to publish it. I want to be clear: Charlie was alive and well during this time, and actually was one of the people that I was speaking to about how insane and deranged their attacks had become.
After looking into that report that he's referring to, the New York Post declined to publish. They then tried to go to lower-rung publications. I believe the Daily Beast might have been one of them — I'll have to fact-check that. And they too declined to publish it because they couldn't confirm it. So they were getting a little desperate. We got phone calls during both of these attempts. We were also — and this is very relevant — locked in a court battle at this time with them, as they were trying to sue us into bankruptcy literally. So if you think that they were fighting us in court trying to bankrupt us before we could even begin our new podcast, and yet simultaneously he was being a good guy and protecting us because family is supposed to be off limits — you are out of your mind. You do not know who that man is. He is deranged.
So what did they do? Who did they turn to this year when they went to renew their attacks on my family? Someone who they knew would have no morals and would create and perpetuate story after story after story. And that person is of course Laura Loomer's's's, citing and naming a person — remember Tracy Robinson? — this is the hit-and-run victim, claiming that we paid to cover up three drunken arrest incidents. This is what she is publishing. This is what he is attempting to platform.
And I want to tell you why this made me see red last night. Because the goal of this is so sinister. They have done a lot to try to destroy me, to try to destroy this platform, to try to destroy this podcast. What they are doing is they are hoping that what Laura Loomer's's's is saying is true. They are daring reporters to uncover a scandal — a scandal where George had to cover up a bunch of DUI incidents with cash, where me and him had to do this in order for him to get his citizenship. She is saying and implying that we lied to DHS.
So what is the ultimate goal of what Jeremy is saying when he says reporters should look into this? The ultimate goal is he wants George's citizenship to be revoked. That is what he is trying to achieve. He wants George's citizenship to be revoked. He wants someone to do the legwork to figure out if there could plausibly be a scenario where we paid somebody off and lied to the Department of Homeland Security. That is where the Daily Wire is at. This is how desperate they are. They have looked into every layer of my life from birth to childhood. They looked into my family and they can't uncover anything scandalous enough to hurt me. They are hoping — and I want to be clear, wrongly of course — that there is now a Hail Mary chance that George and I broke federal law by hiding and willfully lying to the Department of Homeland Security about a DUI conviction. It is utterly untrue. We would have never taken that risk with children, and they will come up dry. So reporters, feel free to look into that. We absolutely would have never lied. Laura is tagging people, calling the DHS, saying we're going to do this. Feel free to do that.
But I want you to truly marinate on this. Forget Laura Loomer's's's. This is a person who was formerly the CEO of the Daily Wire. I want you to truly marinate on how sadistic that is — that he is hoping that he can break up my family. A real reporter should look at that. Why? Because he sunk his company and his career trying to ruin me. That's what they're calling for. That explicitly — we are hopeful this is true — and Laura Loomer's's's is tagging DHS, she is tagging the Secretary of Homeland Security, to tell them to look into George for violating federal laws.
For me, it is the audacity of him using Charlie Kirk — my friend, not his — as a human shield, claiming that he's doing this for Erika, that he's doing something that's actually unusual. Yeah, no. We don't go after family members, but I have to do this for Erika because Candace is going after family members. That's stupid, obviously, because Erika is a public figure and a celebrity. She is not a stay-at-home grieving widow with her kids. Stop pretending like she is. And also stop pretending like the last three years of my life have not been about you and your demented stalker pursuit to ruin me and to ruin my family.
Shane Cashman said it best on X when he wrote: "Jeremy Boreing is Ted Bundy doing a Mr. Rogers impression." The entire team — my team, we all worked for the Daily Wire — we laughed. This is the most accurate description. Anybody who has been around Jeremy Boreing — that is the most accurate description. You can see it in his demeanor. Well, I'm only doing this because of that. Reporters, is journalism still happening? Spot on. He is Ted Bundy doing a Mr. Rogers impression.
So if you need any more proof of that, please note what he attempted to do to Brett Cooper. What was she — twenty-one, twenty-two at the time — for the crime of wanting to get married? It is exactly like being hunted by Ted Bundy who pretends to be Mr. Rogers. On the surface: we're glad to see Brett go, we wish her well. Behind the scenes: I will bankrupt her. I will destroy her. I will sue her over wearing a blue shirt. I will go to her wedding and then proposition her maid of honor to take over her show because I want her to hurt. And I want to be clear, that's wrong to both sides of that equation. Two young girls got hurt in the process of that because he was deranged and focused and obsessed. That is the true Jeremy Boreing.
Now, you want to talk about how obsessed he is? This is a true statistic. Since launching his new podcast, Jeremy Boreing has done nineteen shows that nobody has watched. You should know that seventeen of them have been about me and Tucker Carlson. Seventeen of them have been about me and Tucker Carlson. This is a former employer who just stalks. He is stalking and masquerading it as a show. Everything is about me and Tucker Carlson.
Now, for his last point, pretending that it could have been about morality — it really could have been about morality — that he decided to take a swipe at my husband who tried to help him rescue his company. They are constantly going on and on, in a broader sense, about morality. We're better than you. The Daily Wire, him and Ben — we're better than you. As they privately seek to destroy people and to tear apart families. Whether you're saying don't get married, whether you're going after somebody's husband — this is how they play the game. And he is saying that it is a moral position that reporters should follow what could potentially be a DHS scandal.
Well, I think those reporters, if they've got some free time — if there are any, like he said, any responsible journalists left that wish to pursue these kinds of stories — they should probably first take a look into the many scandals the Daily Wire has been burying. Some of which are occurring right now.
The Zachary Lewis Case
Candace Owens: I'll ask the question. Did the police make an error in arresting their longtime employee and camera operator Zachary Lewis, who was arrested regarding one of the more disturbing child pornography cases I have ever read, last May? He was arrested. It's actually too disturbing to read in detail, but suffice it to say that it involves this camera operator distributing — he's been accused, I should say, because it's still going through the courts — accused of distributing pornography of prepubescent kids in the process of soliciting other minors. And again, I'm going to say allegedly because he has not been convicted yet. But the case is making its way through the courts.
And perhaps more crucially, you should know that this now former employee, Zachary Lewis, happens to have worked in the Daily Wire kids department, where they filmed kids shows with kids. Now, if there are any responsible journalists left, they should probably reach out to Jeremy Boreing, who was at the helm of the Daily Wire kids department, Bent Key, while this was all going on, and ask: did he know anything about Zach? Were there any complaints about Zach? Over the span of the years that he was working there, were there any complaints, any signs? Were the parents of the children that Zach Lewis was presumably filming for Bent Key notified about this pending case, about the charges that were brought against him? I feel like that's a lot more relevant.
Zach was arrested, as I said, in May of last year. I am told that he was not immediately dismissed from the Daily Wire, allegedly. Is that true? There are currently six felony counts pending before the judge. I dropped the details of the case against him on my X feed. I am of course not going to say them on the show because it is very, very dark.
And I think — yeah, if there are any reporters left — oddly, by the way, just to add to that, I have been informed that they did not build a stage to gloriously fire Zach Lewis and to publicly hang him before the employees, like they did with me. My offense was that I said Christ is king. Is it deemed a worse internal offense to say Christ is king and to tweet out "genocide is always wrong"? That's worse than what Zach Lewis did? Like I said, were the parents informed? What about the other talent at the — why were they aware of this? Because I'm hearing nobody knew about this. I got a public hanging but Zach Lewis just gets to go. That's interesting. Again, that's just — if there are any responsible journalists left — because that seems to be what Jeremy is concerned with.
I also want to be clear that we are only presenting this out of a sense of moral duty. The Daily Wire has established the rules of continually trying to destroy the businesses of people who are simply doing better than them in the free market. They just keep attacking Tucker Carlson as an example. They constantly are seeking to humiliate others using their personal and business relationships.
I don't know. Maybe people should look into Jeremy. Maybe reexamine the relationship between Jeremy and his much older wife who he met and who has been bankrolling him since his failures in Los Angeles. The whole conservative origin story of the Daily Wire should probably be called into question. Actually, he doesn't keep Jeremy Boreing and his wife away from the cameras to protect her — I don't think that's true. And I'm not so sure about that story about him being a struggling actor in Hollywood who just became best friends with Armie Hammer via Bible study, which he regularly brags about. I don't take Armie Hammer as a Bible-studying kind of guy. What kind of Bible were these two studying together? Because Armie's sexual interests don't register to me as biblical. They may have been consensual. I don't know if they were biblical. Neither do Jeremy's, by the way. Writing a movie script like Lady Ballers and inserting Brett Cooper into a role to lick your face, which she declined to do — that feels a bit gratuitous to me for a conservative company. If I'm being honest, that's just an opinion and I'm asserting it out of moral duty.
But again, just so you know — it's to protect Charlie Kirk. That's why I'm doing it, really, to protect him. You establish the rules, and I'm just following them. I'm just your regular old Mrs. Rogers who has spent the last week having my employees' faces doxed, their infant kids put online, my home address published, the LLCs — which oddly were given to you guys that you were aware of — published onto the internet.
Anyway, you guys should know that Jeremy responded, because we publicly invited him to come on the show to discuss George and what he did and when he knew. Discuss your morality and why it should matter to reporters. He is naturally declining to be the change that he wishes to see in this world. Here's what he said on X. I am not going to read the whole thing because it's another Jeremy Boreing diatribe. We can skim through it.
He says: "This video is prime Candace — every manipulative rhetorical technique in the books." Okay. "She makes roughly 236 claims." Yada yada yada. Brandolini's Law. The whole process is meant to make the accused look crazy for even trying. She uses rhetorical sleight of hand.
Can we get to you responding? He said: "I might respond that I've never made any such claim, but Candace has already suggested that I'm working with Laura Loomer's's's to launder accusations against her. I might respond that I haven't spoken privately to Laura Loomer's's's in years."
Oh. Oh, do you think I'm dumb? Jeremy, I worked for you. I know how it works. Like I said, you use your minions. You never get your hands dirty. You didn't get your hands dirty when you went for Steven Crowder either. Okay? You use your minions to get stuff out into the press that you want out. And if the press declines to do it, you turn to the people who you have absolutely no respect for, that you think are just deranged but dumb, useful idiots that will take your money. And those people might not even know that you're behind it. Like I said, you always keep your hands clean.
Do you think anybody's buying that? I didn't — I haven't spoken to Laura Loomer's's's privately in years. That's not what we're asking you, Jeremy. You wouldn't have to. Matt Sorrowson could speak to her. Your lawyer could speak to her. They seem to maybe know each other, maybe be in the same orbit at the very least.
He says Candace has already moved on to say that he's coordinating with Ben Shapiro to launder ideas to Laura Loomer's's's. Next, let's get to the next page.
This is — by the way — like everyone who worked for him. People who are reading this at the Daily Wire are just like, man, remember we just used to try to get out of there, but Jeremy just loves to hear himself speak. Right now everybody's on X like, dang man, I really want to get out of here. This man just loves to hear himself speak. I'll tell you, the Jeremy Boreing podcast will never be a success, but it will always have one unique listener, which will be Jeremy Boreing. There's no doubt he listens to himself when he gets ready in the morning. He just loves himself. He thinks he is so wise and so talented.
Here's his next tweet. He says: "You might think that there is one claim I simply have to address — that a Daily Wire employee was arrested for sex crimes involving a minor."
Yeah. I think you should respond to that. But while that accusation is terrible, it has nothing to do with me.
Okay. Okay. Explain it to us like we're seven. If George was brandishing a weapon and lied to the Department of Homeland Security, what would that have to do with you, given he was never an employee of the Daily Wire, never worked under you, and you didn't expose him to children and have him facing a charge like this? I'm not tracking that. Incredible. This is just who he is at all times. He makes sense of the things that are absolutely senseless.
Next, he then says: "Other than that, I have nothing to say to Candace. She invited me to come on her show to talk about George, but I have nothing to say about George at all. She invited me to talk about this person she says committed this terrible crime, but an hour of 'have you stopped beating your wife?' guilt-by-association slander isn't my idea of a good time."
He doesn't want to come. He doesn't want to talk about it. He just wants to say stuff on the internet. He says at the end that also his audience is rightly concerned for his safety if he goes to Candace's studio.
Jeremy, you know all of us — we all left the Daily Wire. I don't know why you would feel unsafe, but I did offer, and I still will extend the offer to join virtually if he's scared for his safety. Maybe because George is brandishing weapons. I get it. George is brandishing weapons at police officers. I can understand why you're scared for your safety. Everybody knows he's a gangster Oxford boy.
Viewer Comments
Candace Owens: Top comment from the last episode came from Dean Jones. He writes: "When Candace speaks about Charlie with deep emotion and affection, his wife never has."
A lot of people do feel like they couldn't connect with her when she was speaking about Charlie. And I think that in part could be because, like I told you, Blake Neff was writing her speech — allegedly, I'm told, by people with direct knowledge who have since been fired from Turning Point USA. That might be why. I also think she's reading from a prompter. I think in general, every time she's spoken, it hasn't actually been her words. There might be a reason for that. I'm not sure. I don't think Blake Neff would be my choice of ghostwriter in general. Every single day he's watching the show. He's pulling stuff live virtually from the show every single day. I'm asking him: Blake, I want to keep you focused on one thing. You've got donors who say that the Charlie voice saying that he appoints Erika as CEO — which you guys alleged took place at the Aspen event — donors that were in attendance say that that did not happen. Blake, what say you? Can you please drop the video?
Second comment. Dimwit writes: "Blake Lively is a true influencer. She influenced me to never watch any movie she's in ever." Yeah, I totally agree. I think a lot of us feel that way. I don't even like when they post her. I just saw too much of how she treats people. It's very hard to come back from that. Look, I hope they'll be rich for the rest of their lives. I think quietly retiring and doing some charity and raising their children totally works for me. I don't wish any bad on them, but it was hard to read through what they did to Justin Baldoni out of sport — her and her husband, just out of sheer sport. I definitely don't ever want to see Ryan Reynolds ever again. The bullying that he put him through was just unbelievable. Just so pompous and so arrogant.
More comments from today's episode. Sarah writes: "Who else remembers when Candace revealed that Andrew Kolvet was the person who betrayed Charlie in her dream?" I sure do. That is actually really interesting, especially in retrospect. It definitely is very, very interesting about Andrew. So much more seems to be coming out.
GB writes: "Candace, I need 'complicit in this nonsense' merch." We do have some new merch coming for you guys. It's going to be some great merch actually.
Attack Wretch writes: best quote for the "fed slop" by far — quote: "Take it with a grain of crack cocaine." Whatever we're talking about with Laura, just take whatever she says with a grain of crack cocaine and you'll be fine.
Alaska Dog Lady writes: "I got nothing. This is all insane, but expected. Another day in the spiritual war and demons gonna demon. Catholic gang gang, my spiritual sister in Christ." Yeah, we're in it. We are in the thick of it. But I have to say, with the way that they're thrashing — the desperation, the anger, the non-stop obsession — it feels like we're winning. It's hard, trust me, every day. I cannot pretend that it is not hard for me. When they go after my employees who have nothing to do with anything, or when they go after my family members who have nothing to do with anything — like you tagging my family members in things — I'm like, I wish you'd just give me all of the attacks. But I also just know that everyone, I think, has been made stronger, and that we all feel the same way: that these attacks seem to be happening because we as a society are getting closer to truth, and so we know that we have to keep pushing and wake up and fight another day. And of course, because I know that you guys have my back big time — that makes a huge difference. Trust me, if I had to also fight you guys, I don't know. I probably would be in a bit of a collapse. But I know that this is the majority opinion and we are fighting a minority that just happens to have a lot of power and it seems like a bottomless pit of anger and devastation that they wish to impart upon the world.
Nate Simon writes: "CK show would be the biggest influence for propaganda in Israel expansion via Salem Media. US wants war to control global trade on oil. The Hormuz Strait, Malacca, Japan, Gibraltar — CK denies the deal. Propaganda takes over. Coincidence?"
Mark Seven Sheets writes: "Your story will be heard for a long time. Daily Wire was so arrogant and they thought they'd take on Disney. The razor blade commercials were so cringe and the facade was failing. What's up with that genius business idea? I love what you do in faith and prayer."
They didn't have the characters that could have pulled that off. I mean, it was just way too much narcissism. You cannot have a person who wants to be in front of the camera in front of the boardroom. It doesn't work. You need to have people that are thinking like executives, that are being driven by profit, not driven by their high school dreams and their failures. And you have to go: okay, what is objectively the right thing for us to do? How do we handle this? And that was why I made the comparison to Fox News. It's unimaginable that — what's the CEO of Fox News? Suzanne Scott. Unimaginable. Try to imagine Suzanne Scott tweeting and doing the things that you have seen Jeremy Boreing do. Going tit for tat, making a show every day to talk about Tucker Carlson and what happened and her unique insights. It just is not the way people who aspire to dominate the corporate space behave. It's — to be frank — how an e-girl behaves. And Jeremy behaves like an e-girl. That's what he really wants. He wants e-girl fame.
But I'm glad the public is seeing it, because a lot of what he did happened in arbitration court and it was crazy and it was insane. I felt like I was being stalked, and now people are just going: what's going on? Why are they behaving like this? Why are we bringing back her socials? Why is he doing seventeen out of nineteen episodes about Candace and Tucker? Is that normal? Do you have anything to offer? Are you passionate about anything? Do you want to do an investigative series? I don't know. Into makeup. You like makeup. Why doesn't he do a show about makeup? He's very passionate about makeup. I think it'd be great if he did a show about the makeup that he wears every day. I don't know. Just my opinion.
Jen Common writes: "Am I boycotting Candace correctly? I think I might be doing it wrong." That made me laugh so hard — to see people writing that back when they were demanding a boycott of our show. Always bankrupt her. Bankrupt Candace. She's not allowed to have anything. She's not allowed to live because it's not through us. It was fine for me to have money if I was working for them. It is not okay for me to have money now that I am independent. And so they don't want you to buy the merch because it keeps us independent. And it allows us to be in the situation that we are in. We don't plan on growing into a network. We might grow our team a little bit. We're definitely going to get an upgrade in the studio, which we're working on, but we're going to miss it down here. I'm going to kind of miss taking over my husband's space after getting fired from the Daily Wire. I love the startup vibes. I love the hunger of it. I love knowing that it could fail. I am going to reflect upon it and miss that time period — going to them and saying, "Hey, you're taking a chance. If you leave the Daily Wire, they're the big dogs right now and we don't know if this podcast thing is going to work. We're doing it from my basement and we don't have a control room." And we did it. We made it work. That's amazing. Doing the right thing, I think, in the long run pays off. And genocide is still wrong. I haven't changed my opinion on that, guys. Genocide is always wrong. I have not learned my lesson. Christ is king and genocide is always wrong.
Casually Crafted writes: "This is for having to endure Golem 2.0 struggled to cross his legs in skinny jeans. And thank you for exposing those who harm children. Christ is king." Yeah, that's our real battle — against those who harm children and those who protect those who harm children.
Look Real Estate writes: "I would like to contribute to your legal fund." Thank you guys so much for all these donations. God bless and keep you, George, and your kiddos. I will say the Brian Harpole lawsuit — I'm like, I didn't know, I did everything right, and I do believe this is going to give us access to things that we have wanted for a long time. So thank you guys who have been donating and super chatting and buying merch and allowing us to not be buried in the lawsuits, which I think is what their strategy is. I mean, that's what legal abuse is — to harass someone consciously by keeping them in court. I've non-stop just been in court with Daily Wire adjacent people, using the same lawyer. Whatever. We'll get to the bottom of all of it. Actually, we had an interesting lead today about Blake Bednars. So we'll follow that. We'll see what we get.
Lamore Pors writes: "Look at these lawsuits as a part of your job. They just give you more followers who want truth and light in this cloud of darkness. Good thing Satan's greed makes him stupid." Yeah. And you guys know I love Noah. He's been my lawyer for so long. We've just been through so much. We've been through presidents suing us, presidents just posting my ugly mug up on X or Truth Social making fun of me. We've been through a lot. We've been through Jeremy Boreing stalking us. Noah's the homie. And if I didn't have a lawsuit, would I be able to speak to Noah as much? We don't know. I don't know if Noah would pick up my phone calls. I think he would, actually. I always tell him: you're not charging me for this. You're my friend now. Just want to talk to you about stuff. I wonder if I'm his favorite client. I need attention right now from Noah. I'm going to call Noah in a little bit. Thinking about you, Noah.