Candace Owens presents exclusive audio of Tyler Robinson's grandfather and discusses the case's legal developments
Candace Owens covers the Tyler Robinson case, Laura Loomer, and Erika Kirk in episode 327 of her podcast.
Summary
Candace Owens opens episode 327 with exclusive audio of Tyler Robinson's grandfather speaking at a court hearing, in which he expresses support for his grandson and raises doubts about the rifle evidence. Owens then provides a detailed breakdown of the Tyler Robinson probable cause hearing, arguing that the prosecution is withholding critical forensic evidence from the defense — including the actual gun, phone data, and DNA files — while pushing for a rushed show trial. She also addresses Donald Trump's Truth Social posts calling her, Tucker Carlson, and Megyn Kelly irrelevant, and delivers an extended profile of Laura Loomer, detailing allegations of mental illness, involuntary psychiatric holds, and repeated sexual assault accusations made against her by multiple men. The episode closes with commentary on Erika Kirk's canceled high school appearance and her continued use of death threat claims to explain away low crowd turnout.
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
Opening — Grandfather audio and Tyler Robinson case overview
Candace Owens: Happy Monday — a super happy Monday, actually, because I'm out of my boot finally. I'm free. And of course, we go off air on Friday, and then Trump begins tweeting me again, from Air Force One this time. I honestly am not quite sure what triggered his little meltdown, but apparently he says I am dying fast. So I've got to get my affairs in order. Two tweets from the leader of the free world about how I am a nobody. I think that's four tweets in total. I feel like maybe the opposite might be true.
But first, we have exclusive audio of Tyler Robinson's grandfather — the original owner of the rifle that was found after Charlie Kirk was killed. The one that the bomb dogs couldn't detect because their noses, remember, their noses malfunctioned that day. The one that the feds led the rookie police officers to after the dogs had already searched that particular area. Wouldn't it be kind of interesting to hear what grandpa thinks? Does he think Tyler Robinson is guilty? Do you think Tyler Robinson is guilty? Let's find out.
Welcome back to Candace. I am sure that all of you saw my rant on Friday — it was on Instagram, also on X. Of course, we were not on air during Tyler Robinson's continuance hearing, and I was just being driven crazy. So thank you especially to all the people in our book club who allowed me to vent about it for a little bit. I was pretty fired up.
Anyway, first things first. A sleuth contacted me from the courthouse at a Tyler Robinson hearing. They had recorded — they were able to record Tyler Robinson's grandfather while he was having a conversation with the reporter Elizabeth Lane. Now, out of courtesy, I did alert Elizabeth Lane that I was sent this and that I was in possession of the recording and that I intended to use it. She said that she had already sort of spoken about her conversation with him, so I think we are in the all clear here.
Apparently there was a break during the hearing and someone was lingering behind Tyler's grandfather and a group of people as he spoke to Elizabeth. What he has to say is quite interesting. And foremost, before we play it, I want to just say that his presence in general should interest you, because we have been told by many liars on the internet that Tyler Robinson's family does not support him. To the contrary, they turned him in. Remember, they recognized grandpa's gun on the news. Dad or mom recognized grandpa's gun on the news — which is weird, because the news did not actually release a photo of grandpa's gun. They just released a photo of something similar.
Anyway, the story goes, according to the liars, that they then convinced him to turn himself in, that they think their son is guilty, and that they're going to testify against him. Now, I have told you from the very beginning that that is simply not true — that his father does not believe that he did it. His grandmother has spoken to journalists and she said that she does not believe that he did it either. And I should also say that Sheriff Brooksby did admit that the truth is Tyler Robinson was essentially coerced to go in. It was a "we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way" sort of situation. He and his family were told that they were going to make an arrest either way, and if he didn't want the SWAT team to bang down the door and hold a weapon to his face and put his parents at risk, then he better do things the easy way.
Like I said, the question here is what does his grandfather think? Because he knows that gun. It's his gun — it's a family heirloom. It was his gun before it was passed down to Tyler Robinson. So he knows that weapon better than anyone. Let's take a listen. And of course, I'm accounting for sound. We've tried to use AI to bring the voices up and get rid of the background noise. Here's what his grandfather had to say briefly at the hearing.
[Audio plays — Tyler Robinson's grandfather is heard speaking with reporter Elizabeth Lane during a break at the courthouse. He states that he is there to support his grandson. He identifies himself as a hunter and notes that his father — Tyler Robinson's great-grandfather — was a law enforcement officer who taught him ballistics. He asserts that the wound described is not consistent with what a .30-06 rifle would produce.]
Hold up. Granddad says that he is here to support his grandson. It sounds like he is of the same opinion as Tyler Robinson's grandmother — that Tyler did not do this, that he was not capable of doing this. And for clarity, grandpa asserts that he himself is a hunter. He also says that his father — so that would be Tyler Robinson's great-grandfather — was a cop for a while in that town who taught him ballistics. And he says that that is not what a .30-06 would do.
Now, that is evident to everyone. Everyone keeps focusing on our big reveal that the .30-06 did not go through, but the part that you're missing is it also did not cause any significant damage. They had tried early on — people in the hospital were making phone calls to various people saying that Charlie basically had no neck left. That was untrue. Those early phone calls that went out to various people, who I will not name because obviously I was in communication with many people that day and we spoke on the phone — those were the ones that got phone calls from the hospital. Initially they were telling people that Charlie basically had no neck left. That was a huge lie. Outside of the wound, Charlie was in very good shape. And yes, granddad, that is not what a .30-06 would do.
The probable cause hearing — what it means and what the defense is being denied
So we're looking at all of the situation, everything that's happened coming into this now probable cause hearing, which is supposed to happen in May, and which they are now meeting at a hearing — as they did on Friday — to say, "No, we are not ready to meet in May because we're not being given what we're asking for."
So first, let's recap what a probable cause hearing is. It's important that you understand what a probable cause hearing is. You will recall — you can go back to my older episodes — that after my sit-down with Erika, I dutifully reported to you all that when I asked Erika what evidence she had that convinced her that Tyler Robinson had committed this crime, since she had been publicly representing that she was so confident that he was the guy — she was telling Bari Weiss yes, 100% — my assumption was that Erika and her counsel had access to more information than the public. That was my assumption. Something that was a slam dunk. Like a video of Tyler Robinson — a very clear video, not this grainy nonsense. Maybe a video of him taking the shot. That would make me, as the widow, say, "I am 100% certain that's the guy." Something along those lines would have gone a very long way in terms of explaining her certainty, which she expressed throughout multiple media interviews.
But to my shock, she phoned her lawyer as I told you, and he explained that actually they had nothing — nothing more than the public had. And then he went through great pains to explain to me very slowly what exactly a probable cause hearing was, because he was kind of making it seem like, "Oh well, we obviously don't have more than the public has. Don't you know how this thing works?" He explained to me that they were in the period where the state was supposed to go out and find the evidence. So they don't have any evidence yet. Remember, that's December 15th. I'm sitting down with them. No, we don't have any evidence more than the public has, but we're now in the period where the state is going to go find the evidence. And then once they find that evidence, he told me, they're going to hand it over to the defense — they're going to hand it over to Tyler Robinson's team so that they could prepare arguments. They get to see the evidence and prepare arguments. Of course, you're the defendant. And then they present the probable cause hearing. That is what I was told by Erika's lawyer on December 15th.
So to put it in layman's terms, the goal for the prosecution in this probable cause hearing is to say, "Your honor, look at all of this evidence that we have gathered. That's our guy. There is in fact probable cause for us to continue this case. There's enough proof that that young man should continue to be held in prison as this trial moves forward." And if you're playing defense, the goal is the exact opposite. The goal is to say, "Your honor, the evidence they have presented is actually fraudulent. These text messages — yeah, they're fake. They made these on AI, and here's the proof."
So yeah, it might be relevant that at the recent public hearing for the continuance, we learned from Tyler Robinson's team that they can't actually make any arguments on the defense because the FBI is refusing to hand over the evidence that they have been requesting for this supposed-to-be probable cause evidentiary hearing. All the FBI is giving is their summary reports. "I, Kash Patel, say that this is the gun. Trust me, bro." Take a listen to Tyler Robinson's defense attorney, Richard Novak, explain that yeah, they have the summary reports, but they don't have the data, the proof, the chain of custody to show that any of this is real.
Richard Novak: What is actually outstanding — yes, but most importantly the data, the electronic quantification, the digitization of physical evidence taken from our client and certain objects that leads these forensic examiners to conclude that there are matches. Mr. McBride says, "Oh, there's two different things, and so they're both right because they each independently reach the same conclusion." But they're testing different objects in different labs with different protocols. We don't even have those data files. Without those data files, we can't even start to analyze, to understand, to appreciate the conclusions, the statistical analyses, the results of those tests. So yeah, the bench notes and the protocols that were followed — yeah, that's all important — but we don't even have the data files. And there's no reason that I am aware of that has been provided for why the ATF provided it in the last three weeks and why the FBI still hasn't. And so I don't think it's going to be a dribble of this and that and this and that. It should have all been produced — some of it six months ago — because we have DNA reports from September of 2025 that Mr. Gray relied upon for his information.
Candace Owens: They instantly came out and said, "This is our guy," 33 hours in. And they were basing it on evidence, and for some reason they were unable to get that evidence over to the defense.
Now, it actually gets worse. Because the prosecution, we learn, is planning to present 35 exhibits at the probable cause hearing. 35 — let's call those pictures, if you will — which we can assume will include the text messages that they very early on released to the public. The ones that sounded like they fell out of a Jane Austen novel: "My love, this, that, I did everything, A to Z." Well, of course, we were first told that those were Discord messages, but now they are text messages. And you're about to hear Kathy Nester — that's another person on Tyler Robinson's team — assert that they have not yet even been given access to Tyler Robinson's phone. Could you imagine going into a hearing where they're going to say, "Look at these text messages, this proves he did it," and you didn't even get access to your client's phone? Because I'm assuming obviously they took his phone. Take a listen to her say that.
Kathy Nester: I also have not been able to get into my client's phone. The electronics that we have required an expert because they're so massive. We had to get these huge hard drives shipped to us from our digital expert. I have not looked at my client's phone, and that concerns me — especially because the state has indicated they may call individuals uniquely connected to my client. I'm not going to say who, because I don't want to commit you guys if you call them or not. But we've been given the names of some witnesses they may call. And what is on my client's phone I think is going to be really important.
Candace Owens: Yeah, I think it's going to be really important too, because that's what everybody has been saying is the slam dunk proof. He confessed. All of these messages. "Oh, we're going to bring up Tyler. We're going to bring up Lance Twiggs to talk about these messages that he received." And the defense can't prepare any arguments because they have no forensic information regarding whether — I don't know — Lance holding both phones at the same time and texting himself. Did it actually happen on Discord? Did it happen on the phone at all? Did they make up these text messages entirely? Did the feds make them up? Because I could make up screenshots right now and claim that these were real messages, but only a forensic expert given access to electronics could determine if they were real, where they were sent from, all of the data and location to make sure that everything is authentic.
Now, remember, this is supposed to be a state case, but of course we all remember the FBI immediately interjected. They took over everything on September 10th. They handled all of the interviews. And so what that means is that the State Bureau of Investigations — the SBI — basically has their hands tied behind their back. They've said as much. The defense is explaining that they are essentially waiting for the FBI — Kash Patel's agency — to send them their many discovery requests from everything gathered on that day, and they're just not doing it in a timely fashion.
Kathy Nester even claims that they haven't even seen the gun. Imagine just getting a picture. "This is the gun your client fired." "Okay, can I see it?" "Here's a picture, man. Just trust Kash Patel." Take a listen.
Kathy Nester: We went to examine physical evidence this past week. It took us six hours. We did finish what the SBI has. However, we still have never seen the gun. The gun is at Quantico. So we've never been able to look at the gun. I actually think that's really important for purposes of the hearing. So I have some concerns about that.
Candace Owens: Why is the gun being kept at Quantico in Virginia? Why is the gun being kept with the feds for a state case? Why doesn't the SBI have that? Why are they getting trickled-down information from Kash Patel? Can anybody make sense of any of that?
The prosecution's strategy and the show trial argument
The important thing that I want to stress to you is how abnormal it is that the prosecution — Erika's team, because she's listed as the victim — is arguing against a continuance. I am, as you know, perpetually involved in lawsuits. Continuances are basically like common courtesies when you're this early on in a lawsuit. An attorney can't make it because he's got some personal emergency, or he's going to be on vacation that week, or some lawyer just found out that his trial is going to be mooched that week because lawyers are doing various trials at the same time. I have never, in all of my personal experience — even when the lawyers hated each other, and my lawyers did not get along with Daily Wire lawyers, one in particular really not — always just common courtesy. "Yeah, we can bump the date to something that works for all sides, because we just want to get to the truth and a conclusion here. We don't need to try cheap shots." So this is in fact extraordinary. It's extraordinary that the prosecution is arguing this, especially since they all agreed early on that they were happy to adjust the date if they did not get their discovery met.
I do also want to address the many people who were wondering, after I did my little rant on Instagram, how it is that Erika can assert her right to a speedy trial. Something that we all know is constitutionally guaranteed for defendants in cases — you have a right to a speedy trial. For clarity, Erika Kirk is in fact listed as the official victim in this case. On January 16th, she then filed a motion for a speedy trial in Utah. This was unusual. The key thing that you have to remember — how this is possible — is this is a state trial, not a federal one. The state of Utah has its own codes for victims, which include a victim's right to a speedy trial. Again, that's a state code. So that's how she's able to maneuver that.
I remember when I saw that news when it broke back in January, I couldn't really comprehend it. It was so atypical to me. Because common sense — of course a defendant doesn't want to be sitting in jail. So a defendant usually wants the trial to be speedy. Rarely do you hear the prosecution say, "I'm going to file a thing that I want this to be speedy." The defendant sitting in jail is like, "Yeah, man, me too. I don't want to just live here. I'd like it to be as fast as possible." So I was wondering why is Erika needing to assert something that is kind of self-evident?
Well, now looking at everything and having paid attention to this hearing, it just makes more sense to me. I believe this is fully the prosecution's strategy. I believe they do not have a case. I am in contact with many people all throughout the state of Utah. I think they want a show trial. I think Erika's team wants a show trial. They do not want to hand over crucial or critical evidence before the probable cause hearing. Instead, they want to pretend they're being transparent. They want to demand cameras inside of the courtroom and then deliver the show trial — or show hearing — of the century, with the defense completely unable to meaningfully counter anything that they present.
They would be up there: "Look at these text messages, your honor. Look at this — he said he did it. He did it three times and it felt good, your honor." Not mentioned: we haven't actually proven that these messages are real. "Look at this gun, your honor. Do you admit that this is your gun? Do you recognize this gun?" Not mentioned: the defense has never seen the gun. We're actually hiding it at Quantico. And we can't even prove that this weapon was fired on the day of Charlie's assassination. We can't prove that the bomb dogs' noses were malfunctioning.
That is my honest opinion when I look at everything that's happening in the state of play. The prosecution wants to rush the public into a show trial because they have already proven that they have the commentariat on lock. All of these people on the internet who will hysterically claim that the evidence is overwhelming and astounding and undeniable. "It's so overwhelming I can't even hear anything else. It's just so overwhelming that Tyler Robinson did this alone on a rooftop."
And I want to be clear that that is horrific. That is horrific that they are willing to do that. Because what are they doing there? In effect, what they are doing is they are remanding an increasingly plausibly innocent young man — a 22-year-old — to his death. He is facing the death sentence. So you better be pretty sure when you are out here saying that this is his gun and he did it and the evidence is overwhelming that you know what you're talking about, that you are actually involved and reading the documents. What they're saying is they would be comfortable sending this kid to the gallows because they're getting paid to influence people that way. Clearing a $5,000 check, a $7,000 check — whatever. If he's got to die, he's got to die. That is not the karma that I would want hanging over my head and in my life.
You inevitably reap what you sow. You want to foster this sort of a legal system that can just pay journalists and influencers to pretend that they're anxiety-induced looking at evidence that isn't there — that will come back to bite you. I promise you, you reap what you sow. I don't know how they do it. I am not capable of lying in that way.
But we will see what happens, because apparently we are in an era of lying right to your face. It's certainly an era — it's a turning point era. In the Turning Point era's tour, it was just different eras, you know? It was like the just-Charlie-Kirk era, and he was talking about free markets and capitalism. And then it was like the "cut" Charlie era, and suddenly it's all about faith, but these pastors are looking kind of shady. And right now they are definitely in their lying-a-lot era.
Erika Kirk — canceled appearances and the death threat narrative
Now, despite the fact that we learned last week that the Secret Service could not accommodate Erika Kirk — she did not feel safe despite them telling her that she was perfectly safe in Georgia — she got back on her plane despite already being there and she just didn't trust them. She didn't think the Secret Service could handle it, despite them saying there was no threat. That was Tuesday of last week.
By Friday, gratefully, Erika was all better. She decided that the threats to her life and livelihood could in fact be assuaged by the Secret Service. And so she opened for Trump at the Dream City Church in Phoenix. Now, since we all know that the real reason she canceled the event at the University of Georgia was because of the crowd size, this makes perfect sense. It also makes perfect sense that the very first thing she said when she came out onto the stage with her preferred WWE music was this. Take a listen.
Erika Kirk: Look at this crowd!
Candace Owens: That is what it's about. It's about the crowd. That's why she canceled on JD and made him look like a fool.
Now, in case you're thinking, "Well, maybe she kept this particular engagement with Trump because it's in her hometown — it's in Phoenix, Arizona, it's in her backyard" — you should know that you would be wrong. Because on this very same day on Friday of last week, as she was preparing to do this event with Trump — and yes, we all know Turning Point USA is located there — her Turning Point team canceled her appearance at Pinnacle High School, which was slated to occur this week. And the reason they again gave was death threats against Erika's life. Let's read that email that went out from Turning Point:
"Hey everyone, I wanted to share some important news about the event with Erika Kirk. Unfortunately, we are unable to host her at Pinnacle High School after school due to serious death threats that she has received over the past few days. We are taking her security extremely seriously as these threats are not empty and we must prioritize Erika's safety and well-being. I sincerely apologize for this change, but it is crucial that we ensure a safe environment for everyone involved."
So she can't make it to the high school, but she can make it to the Trump rally — because she knows there's going to be a crowd. Then she can pretend the crowd was for her, even though it's for Trump. And I've got to say, for Trump, it's kind of a small crowd. I've seen Trump sell out stadiums. That's not a big crowd for Trump. But, "Whoa, look at this crowd, all here to see me."
And she's again using the death threat thing. Gratefully, it was not me that had to clock her on this lie. I'm so grateful it wasn't me this time. The entire media apparatus actually came down and told the truth: no, she did not cancel because of death threats. She canceled because there was a boycott, which was led by the parents and the teachers and the students who do not want Erika Kirk at their school. She is not favored by the students.
Here's a Newsweek headline: "Erika Kirk's High School Talk Sparks Furious Backlash from Parents." Here's the Daily Beast: "High School Moves Erika Kirk Event Off Campus After Students Revolt." Here is the local Arizona Republic: "A High School Group Invited Erika Kirk to Campus. Parents Are Not Happy."
When you actually read these articles, what they're telling you is the truth. I showed you last week they were organizing on Facebook. I've never, by the way, asked anybody to boycott anything to do with Erika Kirk. So don't pretend like people are doing this because of me. They are doing this because they find her to be increasingly unbelievable. She's not authentic. She's not like Charlie Kirk. She doesn't have the Charlie Kirk factor. She has approached everything like an elitist — like she was born for this role, and everyone should bow to Queen Erika, and how dare you notice that she's lied about her qualifications and about who she is and where she comes from and how she was raised. That is not going to click with the general public.
So yes, you can continue to hide behind Donald Trump, which is going to be her new move. She's going to have to essentially just keep opening up for Donald Trump and people that are bigger than her. She could open up for Tucker Carlson and there would be a crowd there, but Erika cannot draw a crowd by herself yet.
Maybe there's going to be a moment where she decides to be honest — sits down, says, "Here are all my text messages with everybody, and let me answer every question about why I behaved like that." Maybe she'll do three hours with Joe Rogan. He thinks she's weird too. But maybe she'll sit down and just go, "Yeah, you know, I shouldn't have done that, and here's the reason why. I did lead all those early attacks against Candace quietly that she found out about. Yeah, I did call people fake crying and tell them not to go to the Catholic event she was speaking at. I know I've been playing nice, but I'm actually a little bit evil." And then people will go, "Wow, that was really honest." Because there's even something relatable about someone who is openly honest. It feels less manipulative.
I said to someone, "We all knew Hillary Clinton was evil, right? She's got a past." Trump was like, "She should be in prison." She still had a real following. I mean, she had people that were at war with each other voting for her — tons of women, the feminist movement behind her. That was a real audience. That was not imagined. Hillary Clinton definitely had a following. But we knew she was evil. Why? Because there is something even relatable about evil when it's honest. Hillary Clinton was like, "I am just ambitious." And I will say this — Hillary Clinton was smart. She wasn't playing the part. She was highly ambitious, but she was also highly intelligent. She is infinitely more intelligent than Bill. She knows policy. She knows what she's doing. She is, if we're talking about just intellect and experience, qualified to hold a position in cabinet as she did. Hillary Clinton worked hard in her life. No one ever accused Hillary Clinton of being stupid — that's my point.
We are getting something entirely different with Erika. We are getting a very different presentation, and we're being gaslit and told that she's overqualified. She says she graduated summa cum laude, and sometimes she says she graduated with other honors, and nothing has been proven. They just want us to think that she's Charlie, and she's not. So we'll see. We will keep monitoring what is happening. Like I said, these revolts are happening all around the nation. She is in effect destroying everything that Charlie built. And we'll see how much longer they limp on and keep up this illusion. Trump can't save her. Trump actually can't even save himself.
Trump's Truth Social posts and the Laura Loomer profile
We'll talk more about Trump now. I wish I could go back to the days where I just thought it was Hillary Clinton that was corrupt. I wish I could go back to the days where I just thought it was Democrats. "Oh yeah, corruption's over. When Trump gets in office, it's going to be different." Don't you wish for those days where we all looked at each other and you were like, "Yeah, it's the Republicans," and I was like, "Yeah, it's the Democrats"? I just want a little bit of nostalgia right now. And now we've woken up and we realize it's both sides. We are the big losers. We are the forgotten Americans, and Trump is just doing it dirtier than anybody else.
I have to say how sad it is — I was doing today's episode and I almost forgot that Trump tweeted twice about me on Friday. That's kind of sad, right? That's how you know you're just slipping into irrelevancy. You're the president of the United States, you tweet, and it's not even making the news like it used to because you're just saying too much. No one wants to read it. They don't have time.
I have no idea what on earth he was watching aboard Air Force One on Fox News that set off his little spree of anger this time, but he wrote this on Truth Social:
"I am on Air Force One heading to Las Vegas and Arizona for greetings and speeches on no tax on tips, a windfall for our great American citizens. I am watching one of the least attractive and talented people on all of television, Jessica Tarlov. Her voice is so grating and terrible I had to turn her off. Her Democrat sound bites are fake. She makes up poll numbers and nobody challenges her because she's so boring. I have among the best poll numbers I have ever had. And why shouldn't I? All the country does is win. CNN had me at 100%, saying they never saw that before. Get her off air. She is bad for our country. I hear Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and Candace Owens are dying fast. Their numbers are terrible. Nobody believes them anymore. They were fake MAGA and now they've been exposed. President DJT."
He's definitely not writing these. Just so you guys know — this isn't even how he speaks. This is not how he speaks. So I don't know who has access to this feed, but it's not Trump. It's just not Trump. He had a second tweet as well, a follow-up where he called me mentally ill. He mentioned Megyn Kelly again. She didn't get a name that time. Sorry, Megyn. Looks like you're dying fast because I got called like three names over the weekend and you only got called two. So I'm big time now.
But it makes you wonder who is actually drafting these messages. Who even are Trump's advisers anymore? He used to be surrounded by sane and rational people. Now he is accusing people like me and Tucker and Megyn of being irrelevant and mentally ill. Meanwhile, Laura Loomer claims she is his number one adviser and she speaks to him almost daily. And that right there might be the biggest clue as to why Trump is behaving like he is off the rails. It's kind of like you eventually just become the people that you spend the most time with. You become an average. And so President Trump went from Charlie Kirk — Charlie Kirk had his ear — to Laura Loomer.
I think you guys need to more fully grasp not just who Laura Loomer is, but what Laura Loomer is. I met Laura Loomer years ago. I was on the way to do one of my first events at the David Horowitz Center, and we happened to be on the same plane. She was crying because Twitter had removed her checkmark. This was back when Jack Dorsey had it. Since we lived nearby, I was friendly with her. I never had an issue with her because I just don't see a reason to start with people. There are tons of crazy people, and I felt very sad for her too because she was sort of living in a rented basement in Westchester by herself and she didn't have any friends that could take her to go get her wisdom teeth out. She asked me if I could pick her up, and I never shared that story because I felt sad for her — she had no friends and no family in her life that could pick her up after a procedure she needed to get done. And I did that.
Don't worry, because her differing opinion on me regarding Israel is going to be the reason she starts attacking me.
Now, the first thing that you should know about Laura Loomer is that when people say she's crazy, they're not being funny. Laura Loomer is genuinely crazy. She's not even Jewish. Her entire identity as being a feisty Jew is something that she made up around 2019. She told me that she was not Jewish. She told most people that she is not Jewish. Her mother is a woman named Joanne Sing. Laura is Irish and English. Obviously, Judaism is matrilineal. She was not raised in a temple. She was not bat mitzvahed. She just decided that it was politically expedient to pretend that she was Jewish. She only learned how to draw a Star of David a couple of years ago when she was running for Congress. Here's a clip of her learning to draw a Star of David a couple of years ago. This is your number one Zionist on X.
[Clip plays — Laura Loomer is seen learning to draw a Star of David. Someone off camera says, "Don't take photos of this. I don't want people to know."]
The second thing that you should know is that Laura Loomer has a real mental disorder. People say, "Oh, this person's crazy, she's mentally ill." No — Laura is actually forbidden to own weapons. She cannot buy weapons. She cannot own them because she was placed on two involuntary psychiatric holds by her own father, who allegedly is very fearful of her because she has had multiple suicide attempts. She attempted recently to file an appeal with the FBI to reverse the ban on her owning weapons, and they declined to remove it, citing the fact that she had been involuntarily placed on psychiatric holds.
Now, according to her former campaign manager, Miley Gonopoulos, who she has never sued and simply blocks, he wrote and published a piece which should be read by everybody. In that piece, he wrote this:
"Laura Loomer has been diagnosed at various times and by various doctors as suffering from bipolar disorder, histrionic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, and narcissistic personality disorder. Loomer's mother, whom we are not naming today, is an alcoholic, a manic depressive, and suffers from bipolar disorder in common with her daughter. Loomer has two brothers. One is a violent schizophrenic who is permanently incarcerated in a psychiatric facility. He will never be released. The other also suffers from depression and mood disorders and has been in and out of institutions all his life."
Now, it's interesting that she's given access to the president of the United States. Everyone sees that this is a fatal attraction. In fact, I am told by people in Melania's circle that they believe the most likely person to harm Donald Trump would be Laura Loomer. And yet this somehow completely evades the president. He allows her in his circle. The question is why.
And it's not just that she lies. It's not just that she is bipolar. It's not just that she often says she's going to commit suicide as a threat when she doesn't get what she wants. But Laura Loomer is also a malignant sexual predator and has been repeatedly accused since the beginning of her career of raping and sexually assaulting men. That is not a typical thing — men coming out and saying a woman sexually assaulted me.
Take for example Alan Jacobs. This happened just last week, about ten days ago. He is the founder of Patriot Cigar, and he tweeted this:
"Laura Loomer is a sexual predator psychopath. I was in fact a victim of her wrath. Loomer and I spent the day with President Trump at Bedminster watching the golf tournament from the president's box. She asked me several times for a selfie. As you can see, that lean line does not lie. She constantly got uncomfortably close to me. She groped me in the parking lot, grabbing my crotch very aggressively and demanding that I come back to her New York City hotel room to engage in some vile, descriptive sexual activities. She's an absolute psychopath who preys on men who she thinks she can manipulate. She's a menace to society."
Again, there are just a long line of men who have come out with a story like this. If you don't believe him, here is a video that has been going viral many times of Laura trying to seduce a young man who is clearly uncomfortable on camera.
[Clip plays — Laura Loomer is heard telling a young man that his hair and eyes look good, calling him beautiful. She makes a series of comments about his appearance, describes herself as having an "Ashkenazi IQ," and invites him to bring his girlfriend to New York to hang out.]
Her former campaign manager similarly described — and again, he published this — her repeated assault on a young Brazilian man who worked on her campaign. He claims it is a fact that he can prove through many messages. Take a listen.
Miley Gonopoulos: Laura Loomer, who is the most insane person — and I was — I was not good friends with Laura. I was loose allies with Laura until I met her. And then when I met her properly and spent time with her, I realized she was absolutely mental. I distanced myself very quickly. I distanced myself because she used to force herself on young male volunteers — 20, 21-year-olds — and she would go in the middle of the night. I mean, some men will find this to be quite titillating, although when you imagine the face of the — of the saw doll, you know, just sort of like you pull up the covers and there's the saw doll — "I would like to play a game" — it's less enticing. But she would climb into bed with these volunteers and — I'll use the clinical term — manually stimulate them in the middle of the night. Sorry to use that language, but I did tell you to put your children to bed.
Interviewer: No way. She wouldn't go and sexually assault random guys and just —
Miley Gonopoulos: No, I'm telling you, because I lived in the pool house with her victim in 2020, who didn't know how to make it stop. He was a young Brazilian volunteer on her 2020 congressional campaign. I know because I helped to run that campaign. Don't tell me you don't believe it — I was there. She was creeping into bed with him, and she convinced herself that they were in love, and he was coming to me every day saying, "How do I make this stop?"
Interviewer: You say, "Get off me." I mean, that doesn't seem that hard.
Miley Gonopoulos: Yeah, I mean, you would think that. But this is a young guy, and there are — I never really understood when people talked about power dynamics in rape before. I was like, "Okay, fine, either you want the sex or you don't." But I kind of got it when this young man, which surprised me greatly, said, "Well, this is Laura Loomer." I didn't know how to say no. I said, "What do you mean it's Laura Loomer?" He said, "Well, she's like Laura Loomer." I said, "What does that mean?" He said, "Well, she might be a congresswoman. I don't know if it's okay to like —" And so I realized in that moment, especially because it was a man, which was so peculiar and confusing to me — it was bizarre — but he meant it, and he was asking me how to make it stop.
Candace Owens: There are women who have spoken out and said that this is real, that she has assaulted many men. And like I said, she has never sued any of these people for putting this information out there. Instead, she just blocks them.
So the question becomes, why does Donald Trump allow her anywhere near the White House? Maybe the answer can be best summed up in her tweet to Benny Johnson when he said, "Pray for your enemies." Laura Loomer responded: "Don't pray for your enemies, Benny. Pray for your enemies to be destroyed and celebrate when they struggle. We don't have time for compassion for evil people. Break them down and conquer them with psychological warfare until they beg for mercy. Do not pray for them."
This is Laura Loomer's strategy. She believes in psychological warfare, which means she makes up vicious rumors about people — like she did when DeSantis was running. And Trump and his campaign found her to be quite useful when she said things like Casey DeSantis is making up cancer. Not something anyone would say. No dignity in that. Already going through a lot. You don't say someone's making up cancer. But these are the sorts of things that she does. She starts vicious rumors and leaves it on the person to come up for air and explain that it's not true. And people typically get flustered.
That's what she thinks is going to work on me. Making up AI photos and releasing them of my husband — literal AI photos — and trying to pass them off as authentic so she can make a claim that he's gay. Accusing us of being separated, as she did this weekend. Attacking my children — that was trending: "Laura Loomer attacks Candace's children as feud escalates." Claiming, as she did today, that my husband got drunk and hit a man in a car while brandishing a gun.
Here is her tweet — and I have to post the screenshot of her reply because she blocked me. I did not block her.
"What type of hits do you want me to land, Candace? Do you want me to land a hit like your husband George Farmer allegedly landed when he allegedly hit, aka crashed into Tyler Robinson's's car while he was allegedly driving drunk with an alleged firearm in his possession as a green card holder in Nashville, Tennessee, where you live? Remember Tracy? Sore subject. When are you going to tell your viewers about Tyler Robinson's instead of singing for Tyler Robinson? Come on, Candy — tell everyone who Tracy is, or should I direct them to the courts in Davidson County in Nashville, Tennessee?"
Well, by all means, I'm happy to tell everybody who Tyler Robinson's is. I hadn't thought to do it because I've never met Tyler Robinson's. I don't know Tyler Robinson's. But certainly I learned his name when Laura dug up the fact that my insurance did pay a Tyler Robinson's $6,987. We can show you that right here. As she said, you can find this on Nashville courts. And it is true — a grand total of $6,987.
For brandishing a gun and hitting somebody drunk? That sounds like a steal. That sounds like if that were true, people would be out there playing Grand Theft Auto — you could hit people drunk driving, just vent out some anger, and only have to pay $7,000. The reality is my husband got into a fender bender pulling out of a parking lot on a rainy day in broad daylight — about noon, I think it was. The police were not even called because the two of them got out of the car, said a couple of words, calmed down, shook each other's hand, and said, "Eh, it's not worth calling the cops." Mr. Tyler Robinson's maybe had a scratch on his car. George said, "I'm happy to pay," and they exchanged insurance information, drove off. And a couple of days later, Tracy decided he had post-whiplash disorder, went to the doctor, and we had to pay a grand total of $6,987. There was no drinking involved. There was no DUI involved. There were no police called.
And yet this is her strategy. This is why Trump uses her — because she is willing, in her ever-present mental disorder, to go after people's families, to make up rumors, to go after my in-laws as she has done. She has tagged them. She attacks people who have nothing to do with anything. Things that most people will not lower themselves to do, she will do. And like she says, she believes that breaks people psychologically. That's her goal. And Trump uses her as a pit bull.
And let me tell you, Trump — you will eventually reap what you sow. People in your circle who have concerns that this is a fatal attraction should be listened to. You should look into the reasons why she cannot own a gun. You should speak to your friend Roger Stone about her suicidal attempts and the things that she says and the things that she does and the accounts that she operates behind the scenes. You don't play with fire and expect not to be burned.
Now, in regards to me — I can guarantee you I am psychologically stronger than you. I've never had to be placed on a psychological involuntary hold. And I am not going to be intimidated by a Trump family thug who thinks that making up videos and using AI to put out rumors is going to scare me. My family — what frustrates people the most about me is we are remarkably boring. We have a very consistent family life. We really do most of our stuff with the church and with our church friends. And I advise people to start living their lives that way so that they have more value, so they don't end up like Laura Loomer in a basement with no friends and family to take them to a basic appointment. So we will not be intimidated. And Trump, if this is the last card that you have — yeah, it's pretty pathetic. That's all I'm going to say about that.
Viewer comments
Candace Owens: Top comments from last episode. Spidey Bear 3995 wrote: "Charlie thought he was going to be killed and told multiple people, and he still showed up. That is why people followed Charlie." Yeah, you really think about that — the contrast there. And honestly, I wish he hadn't showed up. I think in the last week of his life he was starting to put together a lot of pieces, but still trusted some people that he obviously shouldn't have.
Joe Matia writes: "On Erika's last video, someone commented, 'Forgive Drewski like you forgave the shooter.'" That is so on point. It is very funny. Yeah, a lot more anger at the culture than she had for Tyler Robinson. But that makes sense. What did Tyler Robinson do? I'm actually trying to find out, and it certainly has not yet been presented throughout these hearings.
Flame of Love writes: "Trump is a good enemy to have. No one wants to be liked by a traitor." You know what? You are right. Trump is a good enemy to have. I mean, it certainly is not making me think that I'm dying fast. I would say that if the leader of the free world has you on his mind as he is on Air Force One, you probably do have a little bit of influence.
A7 Sheets writes: "Grandpa's words sum it up for me. I pray for the family that is being put through this." Yeah, you know me — I'm also biased towards granddads. I just love my granddad so much. My granddad's the reason I act like this. There have been so many articles written trying to figure out the secret. It's my granddad. I keep telling these people — granddad, I couldn't do anything wrong. He just absolutely adored me, and he was so loyal, and also forthright, and just very stubborn in making sure that the truth was always what was being expressed in the household.
Always Be True writes: "Is the prosecution claiming premeditation? How did the lone gunman prep for it? When was the actual location disclosed for him to do recon? And he's an elite sniper and parkour athlete, obviously. Trust me, bro." I'm getting the sense that they had multiple Tyler Robinson lookalikes that day. That's why the footage is grainy. It's just impossible that all this footage is going to be grainy. I think there were multiple Tyler Robinson lookalikes, and they were wearing maroon shirts and wearing hats and wearing what they were supposed to wear. And they're never going to show us a clear picture of Tyler Robinson because it's very easy to find a Tyler Robinson lookalike and to blur it. That is my theory. We will see as things transpire throughout court, because I don't know how they're going to be able to sell that everything was just blurry and they couldn't get one clear image at all — all of these cameras, not even one.
I also heard a rumor that the footage before September 10th — in the lead-up to September 10th — that police officers were trying to look at the days leading up to it, like the two weeks leading up to it. And that footage apparently doesn't exist either, because they had speculated that someone would have had to do some recon, maybe be on this roof. How do we even know the footage is from that day? Maybe the person was on the roof another day. That footage, I am told, doesn't exist. I'm trying to understand if that means it was taken by the feds, as they took the inside of the hospital's footage for some reason — maybe because there's evidence that Charlie actually went to Utah Valley Hospital first. But there seems to be an absence of a lot of footage that could go a long way in terms of clearing matters up.
A Questions writes: "Trump calling you a nobody, but he continues to tweet — it's giving a disgruntled ex-boyfriend stalker vibes. Like, bro, move on with your life." I totally agree. I think we are in the truth era, and people that are lying are going to face a collapse of support. For a long time the lies worked. They landed. They worked on us.
Curious Joel writes: "Erika's walk-out music is giving the Imperial March from Star Wars." Who's making these decisions? That is so good. You are so right. I've only seen Star Wars like each of them one time, but that is totally — assuming you're talking about the bad guys every time they come out — that's very funny. It is giving the Imperial March from Star Wars. He asks who's making these decisions. It seems like she's just accepting her role as an evil villain. It's a weird strategy, but okay. If you fully accept it, maybe there's something relatable about it. We'll see.
Nikki Schumacher writes: "As a reformed Baptist, I cannot with Ali Beth's stuck-up. She is late and wrong often. I remember way before COVID she went after the anti-vaxxers, aka yours truly, with her mean girl BS." Nikki, I don't know if you just came off from her channel. I am not a fan of her. I've seen the Christian thing — the scales have fallen from my eyes, and it is giving Regina George or something. There is definitely a syndicate of mean girls who don't like people but pretend to wrap it up in a Bible verse so no one can contend with it. I'm not a massive fan, but there's an audience for everybody. May she do well.
Trish Majestic writes: "I find it strange how the first person to leak the death of Charlie Kirk is a licensed gun dealer with a shady past. Christ is king." More on that, my friends. We have not let up on Victor Marks. More on that. You are correct — it is shady. And yeah, we should just not forget that it is for some reason very hard for Turning Point to surround themselves with pastors that do not have complicated pasts or presents.
Queen Saxy writes: "Look at the pictures of Tyler Robinson's roommate. Honestly, part of me wonders if it was his roommate that helped to set him up. I believe he's one of the people walking that day. That will be a blurred image. He had access to Tyler's whole life and similarly his build and dark hair. His absence is really telling." Yep. And don't forget — I spoke with Lance Twiggs's family. They think that there was something wrong with the fact that he was not questioned, that he was questioned and then immediately let go, that they didn't — he's got a troubled past. This guy is much more likely to do bad things. He's done bad things, and they don't understand the treatment that the feds have had toward him. That is why it is important for us to get that data from these phones and to make sure that he wasn't just texting from his phone, or to establish what time these messages went out. Why do they never want to send the timestamps?
Also, tomorrow we will have for you that my producer discovered they're making slight edits to the text messages. So that's interesting. They're dropping new text messages and making some slight edits to the old ones. There's a lot going on here, but we are on them.