Tucker Carlson interviews Wyoming Constitution Party gubernatorial candidate Becca Kidd
Tucker Carlson interviews Becca Kidd, a Wyoming businesswoman running for governor on the Constitution Party ticket.
Summary
Tucker Carlson interviews Becca Kidd, a former Wyoming Republican Party official running for Wyoming governor on the Constitution Party ticket after concluding the Republican Party in Wyoming has been effectively infiltrated by Democrats. Kidd argues that the Republican nominee Eric Barlo's 14-year voting record supporting green energy, Medicaid expansion, and taxpayer-funded benefits for illegal aliens makes him a Democrat in all but name. She presents detailed findings from public records requests revealing that low-income housing projects built with Wyoming taxpayer dollars are owned by foreign and East Coast private equity firms paying no property tax — including a Japanese equity firm (Orex) owning public housing in Casper. She is currently suing the town of Jackson over three million dollars in missing funds related to the Flat Creek Apartments project on the Jackson rodeo fairgrounds. Kidd also describes warrantless mass surveillance via license plate reader cameras (Flock cameras) appearing in her Jackson neighborhood, pledges to sign an executive order against them on day one as governor, and describes Jackson's ban on honeybees, chickens, and fruit trees — rules she has openly defied by keeping illegal chickens and planting fruit trees. She also raises concerns about data centers receiving secret tax deals and proposes requiring them to post bonds. Kidd frames her third-party run as a last resort taken five days before the party-switching deadline when no other candidate was willing to step forward.
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Introduction and the Wyoming Republican Problem
Tucker Carlson: Becca, thank you for doing this.
Becca Kidd: Thank you.
Tucker Carlson: I'm interested in talking to you. I don't ever do segments like this, but I've seen this thing happen across the country — particularly in the West — where you have states that are overwhelmingly Republican that wind up becoming nothing at all like what Republican voters would like their state to become. Over time, you wind up with Colorado, a state that when I was a kid was one of the most conservative states in the nation, and now it's unrecognizable and not a better place. Wyoming is the smallest state in the country. It's the most Republican state in the country. It somehow had Liz Cheney — she got bounced out famously. But my sense is that the same thing is happening to Wyoming of all places. You're running for governor. You're a lifelong Republican, but you're not running as a Republican. You're running against the Republican. Why are you doing that?
Becca Kidd: So in 2020, Charlie Kirk was in Gillette, Wyoming, and he said very famously — you can see it on tape — that in six years, Wyoming will be blue because the Democrats will have infiltrated the Republican Party.
Tucker Carlson: He actually said that?
Becca Kidd: He actually said that. Yeah, you can see it. I'll show you the tape right now on my phone. What happens is the Democrats have no real say in Wyoming politics, so they all switch over to the Republican Party. We always have conservatives that split the election in the primary, and then we end up with the Democrat candidate. That's exactly what's happening right now. Our candidate for the Republican Party won't even sign the platform pledge to say that they'll stick with the party 80% of the time. This guy is so radical — he actually testified in front of Congress and said we needed to remove our dependence on fossil fuels in favor of a renewable energy model. Can you imagine a guy like that being in charge of Wyoming, where our bread and butter is the mineral industry and the energy sector?
Tucker Carlson: Wyoming has got one of the biggest coal deposits in the world, oil and gas. And he's from Wyoming — what's his name?
Becca Kidd: His name is Eric Barlo. He likes to run around with a cowboy hat and talk about how he's a rancher and a veterinarian, and I think those things are true. On the campaign trail he talks about what he's going to do for Wyoming, hoping that we don't know what he's done. So I'm running against his 14-year voting record.
Tucker Carlson: So he served in the state legislature.
Becca Kidd: Yes. We know exactly what we're going to get.
Tucker Carlson: So the Wyoming Republican is against fossil fuels.
Becca Kidd: That's right. It's crazy.
Tucker Carlson: Okay. How does this happen? I don't know the answer, but maybe you do.
Becca Kidd: Well, he's funded by the Democrats. George Soros-funded money has trickled its way into Wyoming. We're a very cheap state to buy politically. If you look at someone like Vivek Ramaswami running a hundred-million-dollar governor's race, I'll be lucky if I raise a million bucks total. I'm going to be your next governor having raised less than a million dollars.
Tucker Carlson: So that means someone could roll in — people are spending $100 million. I think Elon spent $100 million just in Texas, maybe more. People are willing to spend a lot of money on races, but the governor's race in Wyoming can be won for a million dollars. Why wouldn't it be vulnerable to people coming in and just installing someone?
Becca Kidd: We constantly have governors that don't reflect the will of the people. Wyoming is absolutely overwhelmingly Republican. Our Republican platform fits on one single sheet of paper — just 23 planks: the right to life, liberty, God is our creator, the people in charge derive their power from the consent of the governed. Very basic. So how do we end up with governors that don't reflect the will of the people? The conservatives split the vote, and then big money comes in and takes it away. That's what I'm up against right now.
Tucker Carlson: That is totally fascinating. Thank you for actually answering the question, because you do wonder — a lot of these states, and a lot of them about to lose by the way, in Kansas, in Nebraska, the Dakotas — all these places have not simply Republican populations but very socially and culturally conservative populations, and they end up being governed by someone who's in the pocket of developers and green energy billionaires and just the worst human beings on the planet.
Becca Kidd: They are. And one of the things I want to get done when I'm governor is to get rid of property tax. We have people all around the state struggling to pay their property tax. It's an unrealized gain. My opponent is very—
Tucker Carlson: Can you explain what that means?
Becca Kidd: If you bought a stock for a dollar and it's now worth $100, you don't have to pay taxes on the worth of $100—
Tucker Carlson: Until you sell it.
Becca Kidd: Until you sell it. You don't pay until you realize the gain. For example, in Jackson there's a woman who's 94 years old. She's been working since she was six. She bought her house for $40,000 in 1960. It happens to be sitting on a double lot in Jackson now, and it's falling down all around her, but it's worth $4.5 million. Her Social Security income is $12,740 a year, and her property tax is $19,000. She had to go get a job. She answers the phones at an acupuncture place.
Tucker Carlson: At 94.
Becca Kidd: At 94 years old, she's still working.
Tucker Carlson: The way property tax works is you don't have to sell the house to pay the tax. Someone comes by your house and says, "This house is worth a lot more than you paid for it, therefore you have to pay the tax on the difference." Who thought up that system?
Becca Kidd: It's a corrupt system. You're basically renting your house. The thing about property tax, Tucker, is it's a free-for-all for the politicians. They get to spend it on whatever they want. In the town of Rock Springs, property tax goes to buy a golf club membership for the mayor. In Teton County, we have the first, last, and deposit program where we're literally paying the rent for illegal aliens. You don't have to be here legally to qualify for the program. We're paying for someone to stock tampons in all the men's restrooms in the town of Jackson with our property tax.
Tucker Carlson: You have tampons in the men's room?
Becca Kidd: That's right.
Tucker Carlson: But no one has to restock them, I assume, because nobody uses them.
Becca Kidd: There are some confused individuals in Teton County.
Teton County and the Infiltration of Wyoming Politics
Tucker Carlson: How many counties in Wyoming?
Becca Kidd: 23.
Tucker Carlson: And Jackson is Teton County — the 22nd — and it's the one that doesn't look like any of the other counties and doesn't vote like any of the other counties. But guess what you did do in Teton County?
Becca Kidd: We elected my opponent. We have a foaming-at-the-mouth liberal Democrat named Listo in Teton County, as radical as you can imagine. She's been married twice, but she said the best night of her life was the night that Eric Barlo won the Republican nomination, because she had spent years getting rid of the right. The best night of her life is when my opponent won the Republican primary. He's not a Republican. And so I'm running to basically save us from turning into the state of Colorado. If I lose this election, we will be Colorado in four years.
Tucker Carlson: I bet a lot of Republican voters in Wyoming — which, to restate, is the most Republican of the 50 states — the people living there, not the people having lunch at the Four Seasons in Jackson ski season, but the people who live in Wyoming, most of which looks nothing like Teton County, they're genuinely conservative. They just vote for the Republican because that's who you vote for. They don't know.
Becca Kidd: That's what I'm up against — begging people, please don't vote for the R. The Republican Party has imploded. It's not just imploded nationally; it's imploded in Wyoming. We don't have any leadership. People would prefer the values of the Republican Party, but there's no litmus test — you just put an R by your name. In Teton County, a guy will run as a Democrat for county commissioner, lose. Run again as a Democrat, lose. Then go do something different, put an R by his name, lose, and then join the board of the Teton County Republican Party. It doesn't make any sense. We have to start looking at putting the person above the party. That's what I'm asking everyone to do in Wyoming. Please vote for me. I'm there to represent the people. I share your values. I believe in all 23 planks of the Republican platform. I'd sign that pledge right now. I'm running as a Constitution Party candidate, and those three planks are life, liberty, and private property rights. I agree with that too. We formerly had two choices — Democrat or Republican — and one-third of the Republicans are Democrats. So once we split the vote with the two conservatives running, the Democrats select our candidate, and then they start screaming party unity.
Tucker Carlson: This happened in Utah. I don't see this happening to Democrats. You never see a Democrat-elected governor and then on inauguration day he's like, "Surprise, I'm right-wing." When you elect Maggie Hassan, it's like she's what you thought she was. She hates you just like you thought she did.
Becca Kidd: Well, Republicans do tons of things that don't make any sense. We have the county commissioners association, and there are only a few Democrats and overwhelmingly Republicans. Guess who's the president of the county commissioners association? A Democrat from Teton County. They say she's good at paperwork. In what scenario would the Democrats, if there were 60 Democrats and four Republicans, put the leader as a Republican? We keep shooting ourselves in the foot. It doesn't make any sense.
Tucker Carlson: Because they don't mean it.
Becca Kidd: That's what I'm saying. And the Democrats mean it a lot more than you think they do. They are not kidding at all. There's malice in their hearts. But lost in all of this is the idea of democracy — very simply, the people rule. They govern through their representatives and they should get some version of what they voted for. Isn't it their state, their country?
The Jackson Fairgrounds, Affordable Housing, and the Low-Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) Credit Scam
Tucker Carlson: That's one of the reasons you got involved in politics — trying to save the Teton County Fairgrounds?
Becca Kidd: I realized that developers and out-of-state people were literally trying to redesign our county, and I fought for five years to stop a development from taking over the fairgrounds. They ended up with 10% of it, but I'm never giving up on that.
Tucker Carlson: Just for people who don't know, Teton County is in the northwestern part of the state of Wyoming — the bottom of Yellowstone, right on the Idaho border. It's the one place a lot of people who've never been to Wyoming may have been because of Yellowstone and the Jackson Hole ski resort, the cowboy culture, the square, all the cool stuff. And if they visited Jackson, they may have been to the world-famous Jackson rodeo, which still exists — and it's at those fairgrounds you're referring to.
Becca Kidd: Well, it still exists as of this year. They won't actually renew the concessionary contract. So this is the last year for the rodeo to have a contract. They say they're going to renegotiate or look into it. What I'm telling you is there is no longer a Jackson Hole rodeo as of now. The last rodeo was over Labor Day weekend.
Tucker Carlson: That's kind of shocking. There are a lot of people that would rather see that turn into affordable housing?
Becca Kidd: And it's not really affordable, Tucker. If you actually read the contract, as I have done, you can move into low-income housing with $475,000 in assets.
Tucker Carlson: Really.
Becca Kidd: You can have a house in another place. Yeah.
Tucker Carlson: So you can move into affordable housing as your second home in Jackson — the most expensive real estate market outside Palm Beach.
Becca Kidd: I'm not making this up. As long as your house is not within 99 miles of Jackson Hole — in other words, anybody clear past Smoot, Wyoming — qualifies for affordable housing.
Tucker Carlson: In case people watching aren't familiar with the geography, nothing is within 99 miles of Jackson. There's nothing there. I don't think there's a Walmart within — so that's crazy. Have people with second homes actually moved into affordable housing?
Becca Kidd: Absolutely. We built a housing complex called the Flat Creek Apartments. We were in such a housing shortage that the housing director testified to the state land and investment board that there were 700 people on a wait list. Once I got this public records request, I realized that just to fill up the building, it took seven months, and we were literally importing people from other states. A man collecting unemployment in Lake Tahoe, California, moved into low-income housing in Jackson Hole with $200,390 in his bank account. He showed up at my office one day and said, "I keep hearing you talk about me, so I thought I'd introduce myself."
Tucker Carlson: And he wasn't embarrassed?
Becca Kidd: It was amazing how he was not embarrassed. I would be. And we spent — the developers put $100 into the project, fully taxpayer-funded, free 99-year lease on the fairgrounds. The building itself is owned by Redstone Equity out of Ohio. They were not paying any property tax until I said, "I will see you in court."
Tucker Carlson: Okay, can we just — I want to hear the details of this. A lot of people hear the term "affordable housing" and they think there's a homeless family on the sidewalk on Christmas Eve, weeping children, father just laid off at the local foundry, they have no home and they need a place to live — and that's what affordable housing is here to solve. That's not what happens. This affordable housing, which is built on the rodeo grounds — the ancient Jackson rodeo, which is like the most wholesome thing that's ever happened in Teton County — was built by whom and who paid for it?
Becca Kidd: It's a $24 million project. There were $4 million in missing dollars. I had to pay $1,250 for a public records request, and I was able to find one million, which is what the developers paid themselves to build the project. So the developers pay themselves a million. The loans are literally guaranteed by the public — that's what it says. It's a fully taxpayer-funded project, or it's paid off in rent roll. We put all the millions in to get the project off the ground — all public dollars — and then eventually the rent rolls start kicking in to pay off the building. I've identified these buildings all over Wyoming, and they're everywhere in America. It's called the Low-Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) Credit Program. In our case it's the Wyoming Community Development Authority. They have total discretion in passing out millions of dollars to a certain recipient. I also found where the federal programs coordinator is now the federal programs recipient. The guy who used to be in charge of passing out the money is now the recipient of the program.
Tucker Carlson: Which is more profitable for him, do you think?
Becca Kidd: I don't know how he got into that position. But these buildings are all over because they have a cute little sign that says "Teton County Housing Authority" or "Casper Housing Authority" outside. No one, until I came along, ever questioned who actually owns the building. I've shown where these buildings are overwhelmingly not paying any property tax.
Tucker Carlson: And they're owned by whom?
Becca Kidd: I identified four buildings in Natrona County, which is Casper. Two of them are owned by the Japanese — literally Orex, the Japanese equity firm, owns two of those buildings — and the other two are owned by East Coast equity firms, paying no property tax.
Tucker Carlson: How does a private equity firm on the East Coast wind up with public housing in Jackson paid for by taxpayers?
Becca Kidd: That's the scam. I'm suing the town of Jackson right now over three million missing dollars, if you can believe this.
Tucker Carlson: But why would Jackson taxpayers pay for an asset owned by a private equity firm on the East Coast? Why would you give them a free 99-year lease on your fairgrounds?
Becca Kidd: I don't know. It's corruption. I think it's bigger than the Minnesota scam, Tucker. These buildings are all over America. Just look at the Low-Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) Credit Program. I always assumed — because I'm not that smart — that if a town, a city, a municipality, a state government builds something, it owns it, because it took taxpayer money to build it. Why would it give it to some private entity for free? It doesn't make any sense. I've testified in front of our legislature about it. We have a Department of Revenue with 100 employees. The Department of Audit has seven people looking at where the checks went, but 100 people looking for revenue. I said, "Hey, these buildings are owned by the Japanese or East Coast equity firms. They're not paying any property tax. They're generating millions of dollars in revenue." There's a building called Ravens Crest Apartments — $21 million to build in Casper, seven acres, 100 units, not paying a penny in property tax. But that's one of the things I'm up against running for governor. I'm going up against an old boy club. I thought it was very simple — I'm showing you where there's revenue that hasn't been collected. These people aren't voters in Wyoming. It seemed cut and dry to me. Let's charge property tax.
Tucker Carlson: Do you pay property taxes?
Becca Kidd: I do.
Tucker Carlson: Would it be better for you to be a private equity firm in New York? Because then you wouldn't have to pay income taxes — you could take your income and pretend it was interest through the carried interest loophole and just pay half the tax.
Becca Kidd: That's right. If your wife died and you got cancer, you'd have to pay. But the Japanese aren't paying. It doesn't make any sense. And so when I'm elected governor, those are the things I'm going up against.
Tucker Carlson: So the Republican — the fiscally conservative, small-government Republican — is he worried about this?
Becca Kidd: I don't know. There are so many problems in Wyoming that I don't even know where to begin. But I will say this: I'm showing up with a baseball bat and I'm going to be swinging for the people of Wyoming.
Running for Office and the Republican Party's Failures
Tucker Carlson: I think I believe you. Have you run for office before?
Becca Kidd: I ran to be the chair of the Republican Party two years ago. They picked off six people at the end. My siblings were in the room and someone walked up and said, "What is happening to your sister right now is so corrupt." They were setting this up to take me out, take out the conservatives, take out the grassroots. I was just endorsed — I used to be the revenue chair for the Wyoming Republican Party — and a guy named Frank Eathorne ran the party for eight years. He literally worked tirelessly to get us back to the grassroots. He just came out and endorsed me as a Constitution Party candidate because the person running as a Republican is a Democrat. So that's how bad it is.
We've got a Democrat running as a Republican, so now we have a Republican running as the Constitution Party. But the one thing I know is the Republican Party is not doing anything for the people of Wyoming. We have to put the person over the political party.
Tucker Carlson: So that's a big claim. Let me test it. You're saying that the Republican Party — it's a one-party state basically, run by the Republican Party and has been forever. Since the Earth cooled, certainly since the glaciers receded, it's just been a Republican state. The one thing that everybody in Wyoming hates — because everyone in the world hates them — are data centers. Nobody's for data centers. Unless you're the guy from Shark Tank who's going to get rich on them, you're not for data centers. So it's a really simple question: where's your opponent on data centers?
Becca Kidd: The owner of the data center company in Wyoming goes after me on Facebook all the time. My opponent is for whatever he can do to get paid off. I hate to say that, but he's not necessarily for or against anything. He's for whatever is going to get him elected.
Tucker Carlson: The last thing Wyoming needs is a data center. You don't have enough water already.
Becca Kidd: My opponent says they're already here.
Tucker Carlson: Oh, they're already here. So that's the new rule — if something's already here, that's like saying, "We've got a lot of carjackings, but we already have them, so don't worry."
Becca Kidd: We had a Flock camera come down in my neighborhood in Jackson, and the cops came and said, "Hey, do you know anything about this?" And I said, "I don't, but I wish I did. I wish I had come down." Somebody took one down, and they said, "Do you know who took this down?" And I said, "I don't, but I wish I had. It should have been me." When I'm governor, on day one, I'm signing an executive order against warrantless mass surveillance in the form of Flock cameras. They tell us now that they're reading your license plate. Next, they'll be reading our faces.
Tucker Carlson: I think they already are reading our faces. But why would you have a Flock camera in your neighborhood? I know the neighborhood you live in in Jackson — there's roughly about zero violent crime in your neighborhood. I've never heard of a violent crime in your neighborhood. So why would you have a Flock camera there?
Becca Kidd: That's what the deep state wants.
Tucker Carlson: Did you vote for a Flock camera?
Becca Kidd: No. And they're going to be gone when I'm governor. My opponent doesn't say anything. I don't think he did the polling on what the public wants on Flock cameras, so he won't be able to answer.
Tucker Carlson: So the Republican Party of Wyoming is not leading the charge against data centers or Flock cameras.
Becca Kidd: Correct. It's completely worthless. The Republican Party in Wyoming is worthless. Now, there are a lot of good people within the Republican Party and they are opening their eyes to what's going on. If I had not run as a third-party candidate, my opponent would just be sailing into the governor's office again. He was just endorsed by the current governor. Let me tell you about him. People around Wyoming are struggling to put food on the table — people really are struggling — and the governor of Wyoming hired a private chef to prepare all the meals at the governor's mansion. I promise you, Wyoming, you're not going to be paying someone to cook my meals when I'm governor. If I'm short on time, I'll pick up dinner at the gas station.
Tucker Carlson: You've got great gas station food there. Some excellent beef jerky.
Becca Kidd: Yes. But some of these politicians in Wyoming — it's amazing what they do.
Tucker Carlson: Who is the governor?
Becca Kidd: Governor Gordon. He's a Democrat, can you believe that? I'm running because I care about Wyoming. When I win this election, this will be the first time we've ever had a governor that actually fights for the people. My intentions could not be more sincere. I am fighting for us. I'm fighting to save us from becoming Colorado. My opponent voted eight times in six years to expand Wyoming Medicaid to 55,000 able-bodied adults that don't even have children. He voted for taxpayer-funded benefits for illegal aliens. He loves the green energy scam — wind farms, solar farms. When I was mopping the floor with him the other night at a PBS debate where I debated the moderator and my opponent, someone asked him about wind energy and he said, "Well, there will be less when he's governor." That's not what his 14-year voting record shows. This guy's a career politician who has enriched himself and his buddies through policies in Cheyenne. When I'm governor, that's all going to end.
Tucker Carlson: You have more energy per capita in Wyoming than any state in the union, per population. So why windmills?
Becca Kidd: He loves windmills and solar farms. He loves the scams. We have something called the Wyoming Business Council — that's where Wyoming gives some unelected bureaucrats our money to pass out in the form of economic development. Since 1998, we've given them $1.5 billion of our money to pass out for economic development. This is where the government picks the winners and losers. Wyoming has done increasingly worse after giving $1.5 billion to economic development. We have the worst GDP of all 50 states. We can't afford four more years of Eric Barlo and his policies.
Tucker Carlson: Who supports him other than the Democrats?
Becca Kidd: The Democrats split the vote, so they literally helped him get in there. And Republicans like free stuff too. We've got a lot of that going on in Wyoming. We have entire politicians who did nothing but enrich themselves while in office, and I'm there to bust that up.
What Republican Leadership Thinks of Its Own Voters
Tucker Carlson: Wyoming is a state of small towns — relatively few cities. What do you think the Republican leadership, the state leadership, thinks of its own voters? Like just the conservative who lives outside Cody — what do you think they think of them?
Becca Kidd: I don't think they think very much of them. They have not lifted a finger to help us get rid of Eric Barlo. He has an R by his name, but by any stretch of the word, he's a Democrat. You would think the Republican Party would be coming out in full force saying, "Hey, wait a minute, this guy's a Democrat." Instead, they're just silent.
Tucker Carlson: Did he get the Trump endorsement?
Becca Kidd: The Trump-endorsed candidate lost in the primary. Isn't that amazing? We have a candidate who, by a lot of our politicians, has been called pure evil — literally from the top, they've said, "This guy is pure evil." Well, now that he won the Republican primary, we're supposed to get behind him. You just told us he was pure evil. That's why I'm running on the Constitution Party. I could see this coming from a mile away. This is our chance to save Wyoming. We're going to say enough is enough. We're not having any more Republicans in office that simply have an R.
Tucker Carlson: One of the reasons I was so interested in talking to you — other than that you come from a beautiful place that is being mismanaged — I didn't realize you were giving free rent to private equity firms in Japan, but that's pretty crazy. Putting tampons in the men's room, but I knew it was not great. I just think this is happening across the country, where you have Democrats who do pretty much what they say they're going to do — they represent their constituencies pretty faithfully — and you have Republicans who clearly hate their own voters, make no effort to represent them, have contempt for them, lie to them, and then do the opposite once they get elected. And there's no option. Who do you vote for? You're not going to vote for AOC. There's literally no option. You vote for Eric Barlo or whomever — Lindsey Graham.
Becca Kidd: You had your choice previously between a Democrat or Republican, but the Republican is a Democrat. That's why I came along and that's why I'm running on the Constitution Party.
Tucker Carlson: Has anyone ever succeeded doing this?
Becca Kidd: No, not yet.
Tucker Carlson: Anywhere?
Becca Kidd: I don't think anyone's ever succeeded doing this.
Tucker Carlson: Put me in, coach. I'm ready.
Becca Kidd: Why did I want to do this? I couldn't find anybody willing to do it. My whole plan was to find somebody that was willing to do this. Five days before you couldn't switch your party affiliation, there was no one willing to do it. So I went and did it myself.
Tucker Carlson: What does your family say?
Becca Kidd: My husband loves me a lot. I have four girls. Look, I'm doing this for four years and then I'm going home. I'm not going to turn into a lobbyist. I'm not rolling this into the next election. I'm doing this for four years and it will be a sacrifice, and I'm doing this to save our state.
Tucker Carlson: You've got your own business. You're building data centers.
Becca Kidd: Nope. When I'm governor, I'm going to require data centers to put up a bond, because when the technology is obsolete and the companies file for bankruptcy, we're not going to be left holding the bag in Wyoming. I'll tell you what else is going to stop — all of these secret meetings and NDAs where your county commissioners are selling you out. The first time you know a data center's coming to town, it's because the ground is getting shoveled in. That's going to end when I'm governor. I'm not going to do a moratorium to stop all data centers, but these things are going to start working for the people of Wyoming.
Tucker Carlson: It does seem like every data center is built with public tax dollars.
Becca Kidd: They always worm their way into freebies or no sales tax. The small business owner has to pay sales tax on everything he purchases, but somehow these data centers — it never papers correctly. They never employ the amount of people they were told they would. This is what I tell people on the campaign trail: the same people that told us to get vaccinated are also telling us that the world's overpopulated. So at some point, when are we going to realize that the two are connected? You can't convince me that a data center is safe. Those same folks are now telling us that the data center is in your best interest. I don't buy it.
Chickens, Fruit Trees, and Jackson's War on Self-Sufficiency
Tucker Carlson: What else is going on in Jackson?
Becca Kidd: When I'm governor, on day one, I'm signing an executive order against warrantless mass surveillance in the form of Flock cameras. They tell us now that they're reading your license plate. Next, they'll be reading our faces. Jackson is so messed up that they take one minute of silence at every town meeting to recognize we're on stolen land.
Tucker Carlson: Can they name the names of the tribe they stole it from? Do they know the names of the people? They don't know anything. They're all from New Jersey, by the way.
Becca Kidd: They don't know anything about the state. It's hilarious. It's all rich kids from New Jersey. The town of Jackson said no honeybees, no chickens, and then they said no fruit trees.
Tucker Carlson: No fruit trees? Why?
Becca Kidd: They said it was for the environment.
Tucker Carlson: So we're opposing nature for the sake of the environment. You've got to cut all the trees down because of the environment.
Becca Kidd: I went and planted more. As soon as they came out with that, I raced to the store to grab the last of the apple and cherry trees and I put them in my backyard.
Tucker Carlson: You can't plant trees because of the environment. Does anybody — but she can't have trees.
Becca Kidd: She can't have trees or animals. I think they're honestly trying to starve us out, Tucker. I'm just guessing here, but I think that's what's happening. The town of Jackson said no honeybees, no chickens, and no fruit trees. No auxiliary food sources.
Tucker Carlson: But trust us, there's nothing sinister here.
Becca Kidd: I have 15 illegal chickens in my backyard. The town of Jackson says you can't. We've got to worry about the environment. I said, "Watch me."
Tucker Carlson: Chickens are against the environment. They're going to be blowing up the Tetons to put in data centers in the name of the environment at some point.
Becca Kidd: Well, good for me — I'm not used to following the rules. The number one thing that qualifies me to be governor is I can spot a scam from a mile away.
Tucker Carlson: You have four kids. It's so great. Good for you. How many dogs do you have?
Becca Kidd: I only have one, but she is so precious. Even the dog's a girl. So the governor's mansion is going to turn into a hen house with my four girls and the dog and everything.
Tucker Carlson: That is so good. Well, Becca, I'm rooting for you strongly. I'm not a Teton County voter. Can you do that? They require voter ID.
Becca Kidd: They are supposed to be requiring ID. I don't know what happens in Teton County. But please, Wyoming — give me a chance. Put me in, coach. I'm ready for this. I'm going down there. I'm going to break up that old boy club. I promise you, Wyoming, I'm fighting for us.
Tucker Carlson: I believe you. Thanks for doing this. I appreciate it.
Becca Kidd: Thank you.